THE NATURAL STATE WITH JEAN-LUC AYOUN. AGAPE WEBINAR (LEAD YOURSELF). PART 11. 14 OCTOBER 2020. FUL INCLUDES VIEDO AUDIO IN ENGLISH


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THE NATURAL STATE WITH JEAN-LUC AYOUN. AGAPE WEBINAR (LEAD YOURSELF). PART 11. 14 OCTOBER 2020


The natural state can never be an effort. Remember that what I am saying has nothing to do with work to be done but is something that is established quite naturally without any effort.

Well, then, I will talk to you about the clinical signs of Agape's natural state.

As a preamble, I would like to make it clear that when you are in the natural state you can't ignore it at all. It is the recognition of what has always been there. So the one who lives it, there is no doubt, he may have doubts about his health, about what is going to happen but not about what he is.

Besides, it's quite funny; if I can say that in the last two years I must have had thousands, thousands of messages, these people who ask me if they are Agape. But it's often the same answer: "Only you can recognize yourself". Recognition is immediate, just I can tell you.

So, if you ask anyone if you are there, well, simply, that means you are not there. On the other hand, there are a number of clinical signs, symptoms that affect all areas of a person's life.

I will try to give you this clinical picture. Symptoms that I can see in myself as well as in all the brothers and sisters who are going through the same thing, who evidently don't ask themselves if they are Agape because they have recognized themselves. But the cartography, the signs, the manifestations of this natural state are always the same.

So this clinical picture that I am going to draw up is to give you elements about yourself in order to identify within you whether some of these signs are present or not. I insist on the notion of the permanence of these signs within some fluctuations that are obviously linked to the circumstances of life in this world.

But this clinical picture gives you all the criteria that are permanently active in this natural state.

So what does it give as symptoms, it gives first of all a new feeling for the beings of a kind of fluidity, of ease. You are obliged to notice after a certain time that everything in your life goes effortlessly.

Then of course, there is resilience, something else there are faculties of adaptability, of new adaptation that the person can only notice.

Another aspect is benevolence, thoughtfulness, availability for what is happening, a clear vision of the ins and outs, the echoes and effects of what is happening. This is not mediumnity, it is not clairvoyance, but it is simply something that is observed in all areas of life.

There is what is called an availability, an availability for oneself but also for all the circumstances we go through but also for all the human beings we meet, even unknown ones.

There is no projective component, there is a spontaneous capacity to be there, i.e. not in thoughts, attention is much more reliable. The smile is most often permanent without necessarily trying to smile.

Emotions that can occur like any human being because it is not a question of not having an emotion, but what is characteristic of these emotions is that they have no effect on memory, that is to say, you do not attach an emotion experienced in the present to any past event.

These emotions have no effect on the memory and especially no effect on the body. Indeed the normal human being whether it is anger, sadness in the vast majority of cases, there are physical symptoms to this emotional state.


The emotion is lived but it does not impact the body, there is a decoupling of the effect of the emotions and the mind, even we will see it on the etheric body, so there are no symptoms.

When someone is very stressed, they may have a knot in their throat, in their stomach, and this is something that almost doesn't exist at all in an individual in a natural state.

So another thing that will seem strange to you for those who are not yet living it, perception is direct, it does not go through cognition, it does not go through the perception of an energy or even through a vibration.

I was talking about direct perception that does not pass through any vision, that does not pass through energy or vibration. That corresponds roughly to what No Eyes described a few years ago, without eyes, which is the direct vision of the heart.

It's a little bit the same principle when I tell you, I speak without thinking, I let thoughts unfold without any intervention. It had been called, I believe by No Eyes, the vision of the heart.

Then one also clearly notices a kind of flattening, of regulation of the salient reliefs of the personality. The bio-physical stability that I was talking about in neuroscience, the stability of temperament and personality is such that whoever lives it cannot make a mistake, there is one before the natural state and there is the natural state.

The other is always lived as a fragment of oneself, remember that what I am saying has nothing to do with work to be done but is something that is established quite naturally without any effort. The natural state can never be an effort.

At the emotional level we also see what is called in sport psychology of an English word called Flow, F-L-O-W.

We talk a lot about it in sports because all sportsmen and women, especially in individual sports, are very good at identifying these moments of flow, and the sportsman or woman tries to reproduce it.

I will give you the precise definition afterwards but in its natural state, the flow is almost constant when you lose it, you feel it instantly and the rectification of the thoughts or emotions present at that moment brings you back into the flow spontaneously.

So the flow is the athlete to whom everything succeeds, for example for a tennis player because I also like to work a lot in sports psychology and in sports coaching, the athlete who has lived it once, will never forget it.

It is the moment when he transcends his technique, it is the moment when the shots are released spontaneously and all real, professional athletes live with all these trainings, these mental or other preparations to establish this flow. Because when you are in this flow the neurobiological efficiency is maximum.

The flow is this maximum neurobiological efficiency. The movement of the arm and body for tennis is like a dance, everything seems easy, everything succeeds to the sportsman.

So in sports psychology, we try to work not on technique; in general, these high level athletes master the technique but like them, they are not in a natural state, they try to re-trigger this state through techniques that we call mental preparation.

It is a cognitive therapy technique where the athlete will try to connect, to revive those moments of flow that he has lived in the past or in the present instant.

...] uses breathing techniques, visualization techniques, in short, this is the work of the mental coach or mental preparer who today takes a predominant place in the accompaniment, in the accompaniment of athletes.

So for those who are in a natural state, the flow manifests itself spontaneously and it simplifies life because the synchronicities, the gifts, the readjustments of the self are done by themselves, without effort, unlike sport.

In fact, the maximum neurobiological efficiency is a state of maximum efficiency with minimum energy expenditure, that's why athletes who are in the flow do not feel tired, they bathe in a bath of endorphin and for them too in those moments, in a bath of dopamine which I remind you is linked to the search for novelty. This is when the athlete is closest to the present instant.

In all sports they tell us the same thing, so as they don't often know the word flow, they all tell us the same thing: "I lived this match in a state of grace and ease", without any effort. Unfortunately for the sportsman it doesn't last.

It is a little bit like the one who is in the natural state, Grace is almost constant at all levels; the mind no longer directs the person, it is seen for what it is, a tool that serves us when we need it to understand things we want to understand, but apart from that the mind no longer secretes ideas, thoughts, it will strengthen the availability in the present instant.

The body, whatever its age, recovers a harmonious functioning; I call this flexibility and elasticity. Indeed, there can no longer be anxiety, there can no longer be stress, whatever the nature of the stress, of course, because stress represents several causes and several expressions.

I don't have time to go into the details of this; just know that there is good stress and bad stress. We speak in English of EU-stress or the opposite of Dis-stress in the ... then in the good stress...

(Interruption)

I was talking about direct perception that does not pass through any vision, that does not pass through energy or vibration. That corresponds roughly to what No Eyes described a few years ago, without eyes, which is the direct vision of the heart.

It's a little bit the same principle when I tell you, I speak without thinking, I let thoughts unfold without any intervention. It had been called, I believe by No Eyes, the vision of the heart.

Then one also clearly notices a kind of flattening, of regulation of the salient reliefs of the personality. The bio-physical stability that I was talking about in neuroscience, the stability of temperament and personality is such that whoever lives it cannot make a mistake, there is one before the natural state and there is the natural state.

The other is always lived as a fragment of oneself, remember that what I am saying has nothing to do with work to be done but is something that is established quite naturally without any effort. The natural state can never be an effort.

At the emotional level we also see what is called in sport psychology of an English word called Flow, F-L-O-W.

We talk a lot about it in sports because all sportsmen and women, especially in individual sports, are very good at identifying these moments of flow, and the sportsman or woman tries to reproduce it.

I will give you the precise definition afterwards but in its natural state, the flow is almost constant when you lose it, you feel it instantly and the rectification of the thoughts or emotions present at that moment brings you back into the flow spontaneously.

So the flow is the athlete to whom everything succeeds, for example for a tennis player because I also like to work a lot in sports psychology and in sports coaching, the athlete who has lived it once, will never forget it.

It is the moment when he transcends his technique, it is the moment when the shots are released spontaneously and all real, professional athletes live with all these trainings, these mental or other preparations to establish this flow. Because when you are in this flow the neurobiological efficiency is maximum.

The flow is this maximum neurobiological efficiency. The movement of the arm and body for tennis is like a dance, everything seems easy, everything succeeds to the sportsman.

So in sports psychology, we try to work not on technique; in general, these high level athletes master the technique but like them, they are not in a natural state, they try to re-trigger this state through techniques that we call mental preparation.

It is a cognitive therapy technique where the athlete will try to connect, to revive those moments of flow that he has lived in the past or in the present instant.

...] uses breathing techniques, visualization techniques, in short, this is the work of the mental coach or mental preparer who today takes a predominant place in the accompaniment, in the accompaniment of athletes.

So for those who are in a natural state, the flow manifests itself spontaneously and it simplifies life because the synchronicities, the gifts, the readjustments of the self are done by themselves, without effort, unlike sport.

In fact, the maximum neurobiological efficiency is a state of maximum efficiency with minimum energy expenditure, that's why athletes who are in the flow do not feel tired, they bathe in a bath of endorphin and for them too in those moments, in a bath of dopamine which I remind you is linked to the search for novelty. This is when the athlete is closest to the present instant.

In all sports they tell us the same thing, so as they don't often know the word flow, they all tell us the same thing: "I lived this match in a state of grace and ease", without any effort. Unfortunately for the sportsman it doesn't last.

It is a little bit like the one who is in the natural state, Grace is almost constant at all levels; the mind no longer directs the person, it is seen for what it is, a tool that serves us when we need it to understand things we want to understand, but apart from that the mind no longer secretes ideas, thoughts, it will strengthen the availability in the present instant.

The body, whatever its age, recovers a harmonious functioning; I call this flexibility and elasticity. Indeed, there can no longer be anxiety, there can no longer be stress, whatever the nature of the stress, of course, because stress represents several causes and several expressions.

I don't have time to go into the details of this; just know that there is good stress and bad stress. We speak in English of EU-stress or the opposite of Dis-stress in the ... then in the good stress...

( Interruption)

( Interruption)

Good stress increases alertness, increases motivation, increases pleasure, joy; for dis-stress, it is exactly the opposite. You lose your means, you are less efficient, the mind is less clear. Stress management, whether for individuals or for companies, is an essential knowledge. As I have the time, I will describe the different types of stress.

So, independently of good and bad stress, we also determine a global stress level; we determine cognitive stress, there are people who are very good at it. It is their own thoughts that generate stress independently of any stressful situation, and above all, another important element: what is the nature of your response to stress and that is independent of the amount of good stress or bad stress.

This was found a very long time ago, by a researcher called Henri Laborit, who said that when faced with a stressful situation, the individual has only three choices, as I have already mentioned: escape, struggle or denial. It is the denial of stress that triggers this terrible disease that we call burn-out.

There you go, I could talk to you for a week about stress. When we talk about stress globally, you should know that it is totally correlated, it is totally in line with what we call in medicine oxidative cellular stress.

When you are stressed, there is a change in the body zones, organs, functions, a modification of the cellular metabolism which leads to what is called extra cellular oxidative stress where the local PH becomes acidic and, if this stress lasts, will then trigger a phenomenon of secondary alkalinization and the appearance of chronic or degenerative diseases on the body zone of the body schema that corresponds to the stress.

So much so that today's approach to stress, to stress management, takes this into account and therefore, we can correct stress, certainly mechanically, chemically, but not on the causes, it is called in this phase of acidity of the body the antioxidants that regulate stress in the body and, by resonance, lift the stress lived.

Understand also that in the natural state all that is necessary and useful happens spontaneously. It is a state of grace where there is no room for action/reaction.

Suffering is no longer active at the level of the being, certainly pain can exist, physical pain but there will be no suffering, whereas classically in every human being, suffering is pain and pain is also suffering. The pain of the natural state does not imply any suffering but it is the same pain.

As I told you earlier, there was a decoupling of emotions that no longer causes damage to the body and therefore there is no more oxidative stress, which explains that whatever your age when you are in the natural state, your body literally rejuvenates.

All the facial features that were related to the stress lived under stress disappear. All the physiological functions become different, there can no longer be any impulses, even sexual impulses; sexuality is liberated from impulses and it is an act that is consciously decided, there is no more search, no more desire, there is no more search for pleasure, there is an almost permanent satisfaction of all that is.

The physiological nutritional needs change completely, I have a meal every three days, what I call a real meal; the need for calories is extremely reduced, all addictive behaviors are extinguished by themselves, the pleasure at that moment is in simplicity, it is the enjoyment of the present instant and the ability to be free of all collective, social and moral contingencies. There is no need to look for any morality because, whether you want it or not in the natural state, everything is moral.

(Interruption)

Anyway, I said pretty much everything I wanted to say, I was into physiological changes.

The amount of sleep needed is greatly reduced, all the needs no longer exist. There is simply the pleasure of deciding. To make love, to eat, but it is never hunger that drives us or desire of any kind; desire, in quotation marks, is totally free.

That's what I had to tell you about this general state. I could actually define it more precisely, resilience and all that, but you have definitions everywhere.

The natural state is lived as a permanent gift of Life. You let everything that happens come to you, you are no longer in control as a person and you have become the Intelligence of Light.

Then of course, all this is valid for those who do not feel the energies and vibrations. In the same way that when you feel the energies and vibrations, there are a number of manifestations for those brothers and sisters there that are: a warmth in the rib cage, cardiac breathing that seems to happen in several stages and no longer in two stages, a state where one is often on the verge of shivering ecstasy.

There is no longer any need or desire to meditate, to pray, to do anything. Your life is prayer, you are at that moment in inner freedom. You are forced to find that all areas of your life lighten even if you are dying of an illness.

All these signologies, all these clinical signs, I have really spotted them in all those who are awake in a general way and without effort.

We see clearly, without image and without vision, what I was explaining, that is to say that everything that takes place is a film, a theater scene, a video game in which you are an actor of course but you are not fooled by what you play.

You clearly perceive it as authentic, as truthful, as whole. Whether you want it or not at that moment, whatever your previous personality was, humility and simplicity are more and more evident. Pleasure is natural, it is taken in living this natural state.

That's the big picture of this state. So of course for those who have been living the energies that have been feeling them for years, there is the activation of the three crowns; the crown of the head, the crown of the heart and the crown of the sacrum.

You perceive the wave of life which is a vibration that starts from under the feet and goes up through three different circuits in the legs, on each side to merge with the sacrum.

You easily feel the energies flowing through what is called the Kundalini, which is called the channel of the ether. You don't need vision, you don't need a scenario, you don't need to plan and anticipate unless of course you have to travel, buy a train ticket, that's the normal logic.

So here are the main lines of what I wanted to tell you.


So, before I start answering the questions, I will try to change the device.


-Translator: Okay Jean-Luc, we're waiting for you.


(Interruption, Internet problems)


Well, now it looks good.


Good, so now we'll let you have the floor for questions about what you want, the natural state of course, but anything you think might be useful.


(New interruption)


-Translator for Cristina: In line with a situation that Jean Luc was talking about earlier, in relation to addictions, there are participants who ask if the vice of tobacco has to do with personality.


So I'm going to answer you like Bidi, in the phase of vibratory rise from 2008 to 2013, I couldn't smoke a cigarette, I couldn't drink coffee, I was gluten intolerant and I was a vegetarian. Today, I don't have any problem with any of that anymore. I give myself tobacco when I feel like it, knowing that it is organic. That's it.


But again, it can't be an addiction. The last example to date, we went to Peru in February, and it was imperative to stop smoking in order to be able to go up there at four thousand meters, and not to miss breath in Machu Picchu and elsewhere. So I simply stopped smoking a fortnight before to do some walking, I did not smoke at all during three weeks, I did not feel any lack.


So tobacco has nothing to do with personality. Bidi died of throat cancer, well it's not even because of tobacco, it's the famous "bidis", Indian cigarettes with eucalyptus that cause more damage to the body than tobacco. Tobacco has not prevented Bidi from being free as far as I know.


On the other hand, it is evident that the vibratory rise, the access to the Supra Mental, goes very badly with tobacco, but when you are free, it changes absolutely nothing. I repeat, in the natural state, there can be no addiction of any kind. There can be no more addictive mechanisms. That's what we see, we haven't made any effort to live it, it's self-evident.


We can go on.


-Translator: There is someone asking us if you can define resilience for us today, in this stage.


Resilience, so here I invite you to look at a French psychiatrist who is very well known, who has written books on resilience. He is even the one who has - not created this word - but who has brought it up to date. This psychiatrist is called Boris Cyrulnick.


So, keeping it simple, because obviously when it comes to resilience, we also know what changes occur in the brain. To put it simply, resilience is when you are at your lowest point in your life, a certain number of things are lost or are changed abruptly, permanently, rapidly, resilience tells us that human beings are never as good as when they are at their lowest point.


In slightly less psychological and less psychiatric terms, resilience is the ability to bounce back. It is the moment when suffering is transmuted into a search for novelty and when the need for reward - these are terms I used on the first day - is magnified. Flow was the perfection of a given moment, we took the example of the athlete, resilience is the moment when you are at your lowest point, when survival reflex circuits come into action and allow you to find the energy, the mind and the emotional state to get back up the slope as they say, to get out of that state.


It has nothing to do with fighting, it does have a little bit to do with self-confidence. In the natural state, it's not self-confidence, it's confidence in the Intelligence of Light. It is also the surrender to the Light, the sacrifice to the Light, the apparent sacrifice only, of our history, our goals and our projects.

It is the Light that has the project and establishes the project for us according to its intelligence, not according to our skills or intellect. This is why I have repeated to others countless times: You are not your life, but you are Life. Passing from your life to Life is really the sacrifice of the illusion of being a person.


Of course the person will be there until the last breath, but the totality of the person, body, personality, soul, spirit, is led by the Light. This is grace, this is letting life unfold, this is experiencing and feeling this joy without purpose. You are at peace most of the time. As I said, it doesn't stop me from getting angry if I have to get angry, but it doesn't in any way destabilize the Agape state.


The energetic and vibrational perceptions, which of course I have been feeling for a long time, no longer interfere with consciousness at all. Everything happens without me, but through me.


This is what I can say about resilience, it is an aptitude that can be developed, but here we come into coaching techniques, accompaniment, which are not possible to evoke here. You know, I could give you a week's webinar only on emotional intelligence or resilience, but that's not the point today, we don't have too little time left.


So another question.


-Translator: What is the difference between waking up and awakening?


Awakening is living experiences. The NDE, the near-death experience, is an experience, not a state. It's something that happens at a given moment, which is obviously deeply transforming, but these people who have near-death experiences, near-death experiences, are still convinced that the beings of light they have met, the family members who have died, Christ, Buddha, Allah, whom they will meet, are still in the belief that this is real.


So of course it is transforming, because when they come back, they are not afraid of death, they feel this love, but they are not living the natural state. This is an Awakening.


The Awakening is when you live the Absolute, the dissolution of the A-Consciousness and the return, if I can say in Agape.


The big difference also, when you are Awakened, you believe in the Beyond and you have no way of understanding that what is called the beyond is also the world of death. This is called the Astral. All near-death experiences, without exception, except for those who have passed through the Light, are still in illusion. They are convinced that they are going to meet their parents, that they are going to meet Christ, Buddha or Mohammed, they have clearly not experienced that this astral world they see, is even more the world of death than ours. It is also the prison.


All these ghosts who present themselves in the guise of members of our family who have died, always younger, always more beautiful, or when we see Jesus, we feel extreme love, or Buddha or Mohammed, it doesn't matter, but this extreme love is of the order of feeling, which is a love conditioned by form, it has nothing to do with the Love that we call Agape.


There are indeed some beings who have passed through these empty ghosts, these so-called parents, families, or beings of light, they pass through these ghosts, they pass through this intense source of light that doesn't burn but warms, which is the Sun, and they pass to the other side of the Sun. There are very few people who are not fooled by ghosts, because obviously the ghosts will show you your life, they will tell you: this is good, this is not good. They will tell you: you see, you have to come back to Earth, they are still under influence, there is no autonomy there.


Those who went to the other side of the Light, they are not great mystics or people who felt the energies, but they are still people who had a great habit of finding their way in space: airplane pilots, helicopter pilots, astrophysicists, and so on. This is awakening.


Awakening consists in understanding and living that there is no awakening. Awakening is yet another dream, and when you live the awakening, you are no longer fooled by your past experiences, even the most transcendent ones.

I have explained to you that I have spent years going out of my body, not in an astral body, in a body of light, not mine, any body, like a suit that I wear. Everything that seemed so beautiful, so extraordinary at the time, is totally unreal, there is no world, there is no time, there is no space, there is no one. Bidi said it's a theater scene, Abba and I call it a video game, everything is programmed, nothing is free.


Awakening is a substitute for awakening, a copy, a fake of awakening. In awakening, you are overloaded with visions, images, scenarios, vibrations, it is the spiritual trap of the Self into which all the masters of the last century have fallen, especially the so-called ascended masters who are only the puppets of the soul.


It is the spiritual myth, the spiritual swindle, the offbeat or oblivious light, but it has nothing to do with truth and reality. I understand that what I am saying can be very violent for those who still have these perceptions and beliefs, but rest assured, we all go through this stratum. I myself channeled most of the ascended masters a long time ago, and I believed in them as strong as iron.


But when you are awakened, there is no longer any hold, no possible adhesion to these forms, to these beings, who did not know themselves that they had been trapped. They talk to you about love and wisdom, they talk to you about evolution, they describe the psychology of the soul to perfection, but they don't live the real thing at all. They do not manipulate us, they are the ones who are manipulated. They are persuaded to be in the truth, they are seduced by the worlds of form, by colors, but they do not live anything of the Truth.


This is the essential difference between awakening and awakening. For those who do not yet live in the natural state, all this seems very real. But in the end, when you live the natural state, you know that it has always been there. And in conclusion, since the Absolute, you can't even talk about awakening or awakening anymore, and I like the terminology of Bernard of Montreal, all this astral, all these beings are in the world of death, all the ninety-nine percent of the channels come from the astral.


When I began, not to channel but to express the Beings, I never spoke of channels, and the term did not even exist. The best proof of this is in my book called "Contact with the Worlds of Light", which I wrote more than twenty years ago, where I already explain all this. The word canalisation did not exist, and I was talking about overcrowding.


Afterwards with Ramatan, one of the governors of the Intra Earth, I went through a very special process, and I won't hide from you that at that time I wasn't really awake, and I sincerely thought I was going crazy. That is to say, from one moment to the next, I found myself in another body, living in this Intra Earth body, in a dolphin body that stood vertically in the air, more than two meters high.


I felt this body where there were no joints, especially the fins, it was cartilage, but no bones in the sense ... like us. Meanwhile, when I was in Ramatan's body, he was in my body. The first time, I asked to be locked up in psychiatry, because it was so confusing, so surprising. Afterwards, I got used to it.


So the walk-in process that was called directional (or bidirectional) consciousness, it's something I lived and perfectly assimilated, which is part of the appearance of a path until today. But as I say and reaffirm today, all this no longer interests me. Only the natural state is present. I don't need all these scenarios, all these worlds and all these dream worlds, to be myself. All this is cinema that conceals the Truth from you.


There is no one. And the Earth here, in this period, is really the place of the confrontation of reality and illusion, the alpha and the omega, the first dream and the last dream that are here on Earth.


Another question.


-Translator: It seems to me that Jean Luc has already answered this question, however I will do it anyway. She's going to ask a question that is perhaps the continuation of what you just said.


Okay, I'll do that.


Translator: What is the role of guides and angels and those who accompany us in the world of dreams?


So already let's turn the tide, we all said that angels, archangels, beings of light accompany us. It is time to understand and live that it is we who accompany them. The angels, the archangels, the world, the devil, this is what we dreamed.


There is no one.


And for someone who has channeled angels, archangels, and all the archetypes, it might sound strange to hear that. Especially since, when the one I called my guide, who has always been my guide, the archangel Anaël, for those who remember him in the years 2009-2010-2011, Anaël proposed archangelic radiances. Every Thursday, I received sometimes two to three thousand names from all over the world, from Russia, Australia, Latin America. All the people who lived these archangelical radiances certainly keep wonderful memories of them, given the testimonies we had.


But accept that you don't need help, you don't need a guide, all this is the world of death, even in the Great Heaven. Certainly an archangel changes form according to the dimension in which he manifests, but he has no existence of his own. He is part of the dream like everything else in creation.


Beyond all this discourse, some must wonder if it is true, if it is false. I will simply tell you that there is only one solution, and that is to live it yourselves. All this real help that has been brought to us by these forms, angels, archangels, extraterrestrial peoples, with Velgan for example and the Patriarch of Vega of the Lyra, yes like Velgan that I channeled or like the Patriarch of Vega, they are no more real than we are, they are dreaming.


And since we are the creators who created the dream, we are also the genetic Mothers, we are also the Elohim, we are the child who is starving in Africa, and we are the devil who prevents us from living in freedom. What I am telling you here are not concepts, it is something that is lived by most of those who are in the natural state.


In short, you are complete on your own and in Truth, there is no one. But you can't accept that, there's no point in believing that. You can only verify it, but for that you have to stop thinking that you depend on any being of light.


That's why Omraam said that there was no need for him to intervene anymore. We had the same problem in 2012 when Autres Dimensions was stopped. Many brothers and sisters could no longer find something to lean on. It was then that I began to realize that many brothers and sisters who were following Autres Dimensions, whether at a distance or in encounters, were only feeding on this Light but never had enough autonomy to see that they themselves were this Light. And live it.


As long as you depend on anyone on those planes, you cannot be free, no matter what you say.


I told you two days ago, that by working on near-death states with Dr. Moody's teams and the first scans we had, we are able to formally differentiate the one who dreams that he is awake from the one who is actually awake. They are not at all the same cerebral images.


In the waking state, whatever the manifestations, you will have no modification of the cerebral structures, whereas in the waking state, in the natural state, the modifications of the scanner, or of the MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) now, are perfectly recognizable.


As soon as I am in relation with any person who is going to express himself, I do not need any clairvoyance or vibratory sensitivity to feel and see clearly if the person is dreaming or awake. I'm not talking about right or wrong here, I'm just talking about the real and the illusion.


You can see it like the nose in the middle of the face. It only takes a few sentences expressed by the speaker to understand if he or she is natural or if he or she is wearing a mask. The one who wears a mask, of the ego or of the self, is always hyper vigilant with regard to the other's gaze, or the gaze of others. He plays a game, he needs to value himself, he is not natural. He who is natural, it can be felt, it can be seen, his words cannot deceive, the expression on his face cannot deceive.

You are more likely to meet beings in their natural state when you meet a small child in the street, rather than in the so-called spiritual environment, which is a hypnotic environment. This is the Luciferian illusion. It is what prevents you from being natural in the present moment, in the eternal present.


But fortunately, it's getting easier and easier to live this natural state. There are a lot of brothers and sisters that it comes down to like this ... spontaneously, they never looked for anything, but they were good, in every sense of the word.


Remember that all spiritual searching, what I am telling you here is formal, it is inscribed in the brain and in the heart, all those who are in a spiritual process, and we all have been, are subject to one fear, the fear of death. The spiritual search is only a fear of death that is not confessed. It is not me saying this, it is the neurosciences of spirituality. Of course, there are many other markers that have been sufficiently evoked in the era of Autres Dimensions.


When you are in the natural state, your personal life can only be simple and natural, in all areas of your life. You cannot do otherwise, even if you wanted to. You have no point of view to defend, you have no point of view to fight or oppose.


You accept the other as he is, even in his Luciferian illusion, because you really know that it is only you, a little like the so-called sub-personalities that the Italian psychiatrist Assagioli explained.


Do you have any other questions?


Translator: We have many questions that are very well answered and explained in the sites Autres Dimensions ou Transformations, in Brazilian you have the Ultimate Readings of Light. There are hundreds of interventions that explain exactly those questions that are raised here.


Excuse me, I did not hear the last sentence.


Translator: These questions that are raised here, in the Shantinilaya site, ...


Yes.


Translator: All this is explained, I speak for myself, that all the issues that raise in your speeches ...


Hold on. Because there, your two voices are superimposed, that is to say that Cristina continues to speak, and you it must happen before, and you speak on Cristina's voice, there is a latency.


Translator: Yes, yes, there is... It's not synchronous.


And yes, so your voice is also taken by Christina's voice. So leave a little bit of latency before you speak.


Translator: Okay, there are some questions that are amply answered in the sites I've already mentioned. They are translated into Portuguese, Spanish, English, and I fully recommend this reading. However there is a question here that someone asks if there is, if Jean-Luc is going to do the practice of the natural state.


No, I never said that. It was presented like that on Shantinilaya. It's a misunderstanding of the translators. The natural state, there is no practice. It is precisely the cessation of all practice. I did indeed speak of practice without practice, several months ago, for Agape inter-dimensional spatial resonance, which was what I called practice without practice, and the way to arrive at the natural state, but there is no energy, no resonance, no vibration, that can lead you there.


Inter-dimensional spatial resonances make you experience Agape moments. The natural state is the permanent Agape state. It depends on only one thing, not on a practice, but on total availability, acceptance, sacrifice, humility and simplicity, but it will never be a practice. I believe that OMA and ABBA have explained this perfectly.


Everything you think you hold, holds you. Until you have completely let go of your beliefs in a savior, in a guide, in even the most prestigious being of light, you cannot be free, you cannot be in the natural state, it is impossible. All those who live it are the ones who have let go of all that. Of course, before letting go, you can always go and read the channelings of Autres Dimensions. That will give you some reference points.

But the Truth, it is You, it is nowhere else.


You have to get rid of all this spiritual junk. Freedom knows no spirituality. Spirituality is Luciferian in essence. It is white hat and white bonnet as they say. On one side you have the bad guys, the pedosatanists, and on the other side you have the good guys, Quanon, Trump and all that. Ah, I grant you, it's much lighter than the pedosatanists, but it's the same purpose: to prevent you from being real.


The Light, the Truth, it is without symbol. There is no evolution, you are perfect. I will repeat it until the last minute of my days, I cannot say anything else.


I have channeled the last Guardians of the dream, we have been traveling with the whales for a year because they are the ones who have brought us closest to reality, but they are no more real than we are. The only difference is that they knew they were dreaming.


That's why everywhere now, on Earth, as Phahame announced, there, at the beginning of August, cetaceans, whales, sharks, orcas, are leaving this plane. They are in the process of leaving this plane, for the last two weeks it hasn't stopped. Then of course the one who is in the emotion will say to you "Oh the poor animals", but they are free! Bidi said it, when his wife died, he was dancing around his wife's bed. He was not happy because his wife had died, he was happy because she was free.


When you are subject to your emotions and your perceptions, you are still in a limited point of view, linked to your memories, your learning, your habits, your beliefs. How do you want to be free in that?


Freedom is without person, without history and without becoming. What do you want to become when you live the inner perfection? I am not the first to say it anyway, or to live it. Reread "The Life of Ma Ananda Moyi", reread "History of a Soul" by Thérèse de Lisieux, and you will understand, intellectually, you will understand what it means.


So it's going to be time because we're going to resume in an hour and a half with a very long channeling of Bidi with the answers to the questions, and an hour and a half is very good for resting a little bit from each other.


-Cristina/Translator: See you soon. See you later.


See you later, have a good rest.


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QUESTIONS/ANSWERS WITH JEAN-LUC AYOUN. AGAPE WEBINAR (LEAD YOURSELF). PART 10. OCTOBER 14, 2020. INCLUDES VIDEO AUDIO IN ENGLISH

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QUESTIONS/ANSWERS WITH JEAN-LUC AYOUN. AGAPE WEBINAR (LEAD YOURSELF). PART 10. OCTOBER 14, 2020



Jean-Luc: Hello everyone.



Introduction by Cristina.


-Translator for Cristina: .... Program of the day, and towards the end of his intervention, to all the participants:


On behalf of the organization, I would also like to tell you that it is impossible to answer all the questions we have received, we have a limited time, and also to tell you that there is no criterion for choice other than the order of arrival. There will be questions that could generate translation problems, and we also have difficulty understanding what people mean exactly. But I also think that at that point the questions will not have the weight they had in the past.


So please accept the circumstances in Agape, in Peace, and everything is fine. Often our person demands explanations, but you also know that our heart doesn't need that, it's useless. So again, we are sorry that we cannot answer all the questions, but the important thing here is not what we understand but the Love that we allow ourselves to be, and these are the words that I have to say on behalf of the whole team, words of gratitude for your understanding, kindness, and above all the Love that you have shared with all of us.


I will already start asking Jean-Luc a few questions, we will keep the "chat" active, and if there is something more you want to bring, please do so.


Then we'll get started.



Question/Answer part


-Translator: Jean-Luc, is this creation perennial in a world of illusion, fear, suffering, could it have been avoided?


No, not at all. It had been explained, in 2018 I think, - I invite you to look at the satsangs of this year, especially from May until the end of that year -, it essentially concerns the very principle of the Primary Anomaly. The totality of the projection of consciousness, the totality of the dimensional universes of whatever nature bears the imprint of this Primary Anomaly.


All creation, and from the point of view of history, is cyclical. From the point of view of the Real or the Absolute, all this even represents the nature of creation, the nature of creation is the very nature of consciousness, is inscribed in a form since the anthropomorphism of creation is present up to the twenty-fourth dimension.


The primary anomaly, because it would take too long to go into details, at the moment of the first emanation of the Light of the Absolute, - understand that, when I speak of first emanation, I am not speaking of a linear temporal notion, but of an event that is present in all dimensions, in all forms and therefore in all manifestations of what is called Consciousness -, At the time of this first emanation of Light, which is called the Source, evidently this memory which is beyond all memory is inscribed in us, the veils of the dream, created I remind you from this instant said initial, which are active in each time and in each dimension, were the guarantor if I can say of our apparent return to the Truth that we never left.


Time and space are a total illusion, the primary anomaly consisted simply in creating a first image of the polarized Source during this first emanation named Source, that is to say with a dichotomy that later became what was called duality.


This anomaly was intended to show that all creation, from the Absolute that we are, was just a story that was built. That's why it's called a Dream, because it's the only analogy we can find.


All of this has unfolded and multiplied infinitely, with levels of densities, vibrations, energies, which correspond to the different dimensions. In fact, as everyone knows, the further away we get from the Source, the more we are precipitated into levels that I would describe as increasingly dense and increasingly formal, necessarily leading to a process of identification with a form whatever it is, whether we call it our physical body, or the form of a being of light.

From this separation, apparent since it is a dream, pain and suffering were created. They were created by themselves by the very forces brought into play by the consciousness in the illusion of time, at certain moments in the notion of cycles, or in a total way including all dimensions and densities, so that they have the possibility to live this collective event, which we can call awakening.


We are here on this Earth at the Heart of all universes. We carry the memory, all of us without exception, being supposedly the ultimate level of what has been called the fall. Of course, we carry within us, not only the memories of the ego of this life, the memories of the soul, and especially the memory of the first memory prior to form and prior to individuality.


This moment must be unique in all universes and in all dimensions. I remind you that everything has been written. Free will is a lure that belongs to the ego and the soul. The Truth, the Light, the Absolute, do not respond to any of these laws, but they are inscribed in the very revelation of the dream.


The collective initial moment and the collective final moment, which have been named the Alpha and the Omega, show clearly to those who are awakened, that there is no space, distance, or time between the Alpha and the Omega. It is when you realize this, beyond the intellect, through some form of direct understanding while living it, that is the moment when the first memory that could be said to be a memory, but a memory that occurs in the future, that is to say now, is actually a return to the initial moment that is nothing more than the final moment.


In the scenario and script of the creation, it was absolutely necessary that there be this awakening, what we call the Natural State, where Everything is only Joy, where Everything is Evidence, Acceptance and Agape. Love can no longer be conditioned, it can no longer be personal, it cannot make a difference in any manifested aspect of consciousness outside of oneself.


In fact, what we call Awakening, the natural Agape state, is nothing more than this form of reminiscence that puts an end to time, that shows us that we are all spaces, all forms and the totality of the Dream.


These are very weak words to try to make us apprehend what can be neither defined nor limited. It is a state as we say of Joy, a state of Evidence, which is based on nothing else than this state itself, which is exclusively perceptible and livable in the Eternal Present.


(A voice outside makes them pause and smile)


-Translator: Can we continue?


Yes. What are they selling out there?


(Answer from Cristina/incomprehensible translator ... but Laughter)


-Translator: It's a sequence of the other, this question. Before, we were in Time Zero. So why did we have to write this script?


How did we have to write it? I'm not sure I understood the meaning of the question.


-Translator: Before, we were in Time Zero. So why did we have to write this script?


The script was not written in Time Zero, because in Time Zero there is Total Felicity. The script was written from the emanation of the One Consciousness, from the first form, which is the Source. The first image of the Source, which was Metatron, bears the primary anomaly. There was therefore a fragmentation, a descending and ascending generation, since the emanation of the Absolute.


What I am saying here can be found in all primordial traditions. If you look as well, for example, I took the example of the Chinese, Taoism, if you look at the Gnostics, for example, they tell you that the creators of this world are demiurges, psychotics, madmen.


This is the nature of creation, which does not mean that we should reject creation, because there is an enormous amount of beauty, it is the Intelligence of Light, it is the infinity of forms and consciousness. It is a question of seeing clearly, otherwise you risk entering into the denial of Life, whereas on the contrary, it is the acceptance of life, the acceptance of who you are at this moment, which literally secretes Freedom and Agape.


You have two neuromediators or two hormones that are deeply elevated in the blood in the Agape state. The most important is oxytocin which is the hormone of happiness, the hormone of Joy. When you take someone in your arms, without any sexual connotation of possession, you secrete oxytocin. When a mother breastfeeds her child, there is also a secretion of oxytocin.


The second, which also corresponds to this awakening to the Natural State, is a hormone that is secreted by the pituitary gland, the famous third eye, called epiphysin. It has been shown that in cases of true awakening, through functional imaging, where we clearly see an edema in the areas of the motor sensory cortex, what we called at the time the Im and Is Stars. This edema is systematically found on MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) in a human being who is awake, and blood tests show at that time a significant secretion of the two hormones I have just mentioned.


Oxytocin is the hormone, is the neuromediator of what I named two days ago in neuroscience the very foundation of the expression of cooperation, persistence and transcendence. Epiphysin, on the other hand, will modify sleep cycles, and a whole host of time-related regulations, in particular on physiological needs of all kinds, whether it be sexuality, whether it be food, all these chrono-biological data, of attraction also at all levels, are amplified by epiphysin.


Of course the Natural State, which I will talk about this afternoon, has extremely precise markers at the neuroscientific, physiological, anatomical, behavioral, psychological level, in particular activating spiritual potentials, these potentials being named by the names of the Stars around the head.


A small precision at this level, when we spoke of the twelve Stars of Mary, the stars of the head, they are located at very precise places in relation to the external skull, but especially at the central neurological level, these twelve stars around the head are in fact all located on the forehead, not energetically, nor vibratorily, but in the prefrontal cortex, that is to say the gray matter.


-Translator: Cut, I didn't hear. They are located ...


Yes, yes, I was saying: These twelve stars that were energetically located around the head, are coded, recapitulated, between the two zones here, on the forehead, on what is called the prefrontal cortex, which are the summit of cognition, which are not the place where the feeling of being an individual is located, which is linked, I remind you, to the reptilian brain.


These twelve spiritual potentials, I am not going to mention them again, but perhaps I will take two or three examples. The two most external ones are Clarity and Precision, Good and Evil does not change places - Attraction and Repulsion if you like -, and of course you have other stars. I'll take another example, the star Therese carries the virtue Depth, which is connected with the door that is located in the left iliac fossa, the fold of the left groin, and Depth is simply the ability to enter into what is deep, into what is intimate and truthful.


Ki Ris Ti, which I remind you was the star located behind the head on the left side, corresponds to the Christic state, etc... etc... I refer you to the history for that.


The question was what? (Laughter)


-Translator: Ah, the question was: since we were already in Time Zero, why did we write the script?


That was it. We didn't write the script, everything happened spontaneously, as Bidi said, Life appeared, the universes appeared, by the Intelligence of Light. What appeared will necessarily disappear, because everything is cyclical on a time scale that has nothing to do with human life.


At this very moment you have countless galaxies that are being reabsorbed by black holes, which is the case I remind you in our solar system, by the arrival of dead stars and a black hole and, with the alignment that will occur with the galactic center Sagitarius A, where the "Mystery" is, in the etymological sense. If you want the analogy, it would be the womb of the goddess the place of the alchemy of creation, the womb of the woman. I'm going to stop there, otherwise I'm going to deviate too much.


That's the main thing I wanted to tell you.


-Translator: So let's continue. I balance between two states, on the one hand peace, joy, lightness with an almost permanent smile, and on the other hand a state of fatigue, lack of interest, and therefore joy for any project that doesn't exist. Is this swaying a lack of stability in the heart?


Not at all. Absolutely not. It is the case for everyone. The observer sees this suffering character in this world and at the same time lives the Truth of Agape. It's called the face-to-face, that's what you have to go through, and it's to disgust you forever to be subjected to the dream or to believe in the dream. The dream is not strictly speaking destroyed, it is not a destruction, except for the ego, except for the soul.


On the other hand, for the Spirit, for the Real, that which has never really appeared cannot disappear. In the logic of the event, when the solar system, our solar system, is aligned with Sagittarius A, then, as Nostradamus said, the arrow of Sagittarius will be shot (fired), and that is the event. This is the association of the galactic flash with the solar flash, and also the flash of our heart, the famous White Paradise, so that as many brothers and sisters as possible, at the moment of the event of the famous White Paradise, we can receive and cushion the unfolding of the Truth.


It is quite logical, even when you are in a stabilized Agape state if I may say so, to see your own character, the last habits, the last attachments, the last beliefs, to the point of nausea, to the point of nightmare.


There's a rule that was given many years ago in the course of events that we live through, the more the chaos will grow, the more you will be in Joy. And the bad boys, with their installation of the new world order, participate in the same Truth. Only they don't know it, because they don't have a clear vision, and they haven't experienced what creation is. (JLA smile)


That's why it's something that makes me smile inside, the more chaos grows, on the screen of the world or in our own life, even if it has to go through great suffering, through illness, through loss, it has only one goal, whatever your feelings and perceptions, to make you realize, to make you realize that you are only Joy.


This superimposition is sometimes painful, comes to disturb the perception of yourself, comes to question you like the question that is asked, but it is the normal process. The more you let go of your pretensions to believe you are a separate individual, the more you let go ...


(Turns off)


Ah there is a cut.


-Translator: Yes, and we can't see you.


No, it throws me out of the system all the time. So, is it going to hold there? I can hear you, can you hear me? I'm not on wifi, I'm on 4G, and it's true that 4G all over the world, it's very fluctuating. I shouldn't be long before I get there.


-Translator: Oh, here we go...


No, the image is fixed. Well, you don't need to see my face, we'll keep going anyway, it'll come back eventually.


Where was I at?


-Translator: Yes, the problem is that ... we zap afterwards, we start talking and Pfuitt, here we go. But I think you've already said the gist of it, if I may say so.


Yes, yes, that was the end of my intervention on the question.


-Translator: She still has a question that is a continuity to the one before. Once we wake up, do we still have interest, or joy in creating something?


But we are creators, just don't be trapped by goals or objectives, and your creation should not come from a projection into the future, but adapted to the present instant. At that moment the Intelligence of Light, the fluidity of Unity, will naturally lead you to express your full potential. Everything will be easy.


Do not worry about the event to adapt your behavior. It is not a question of doing survivalism or to protect yourself, to protect yourself from anything. At that moment you are even more available for life and its creativity, provided that you are in the present, not in memories or projections.


In other words creativity, projects are realized in the instant, by your availability, and less and less by your will or your decisions. Let things come to you. The major pitfall, the major problem is here, we want to direct our life, and as long as we believe we are directing our life, we are not available for Life or for the Real.


Another question.


Cristina's intervention, addressed to all the participants, was essentially about work in companies, which is her field of intervention. (30 minutes)


-Translator: Jean-Luc, have you left?


No, no, I'm listening carefully.


-Translator: Your turn.


Compared to the company, which is not my field, but I have created many technological systems to support business leaders, I have created grids and technologies that specifically address what I call the emotional intelligence of groups, because there is a double dynamic.


Well I think Cristina is aware of course, there is this individual dynamic of the Agape state, but there is also the group dynamic in group coaching or the management of the leaders themselves, which this time is the Agape resonance, or as Cristina used to say, the collaborators, the team, must be part of this Agape resonance whose key words are cooperation and benevolence.


This is a far cry from the old corporate world, and whatever the collective event, the companies, which are in quantity, which have not seen this necessity, which is indeed a great change, and we all know that in companies resistance to change is something essential, and therefore cooperation and this particular management of teams is very important.


Competition has been replaced by the acceptance that the solution is there, if you have won or if you have been made to win within yourself, something that is fundamental, which is resistance to change. The habit, the lack of creativity means the death of a company.


These are the few words I wanted to add on the entrepreneurial side.


Cristina's intervention addressed to all the participants.


-Translator for Cristina: Jean-Luc, I don't understand what's going on, I think it's Bidi doing this to Jean-Luc, dematerialized Jean-Luc ...


(There is only Jean-Luc's voice, but no image).


I am there, without form.


-Translator: I have a question I've received from several people. OMA said that he was thinking of intervening much less. Can you explain exactly what that means?


It simply means that today, there are countless people, even me, who are interested in what the speakers tell us, but at some point there is something essential.


It's autonomy, but also the freedom not to depend on absolutely nothing that could be considered outside opinion. It takes the pedagogical process of empowerment ... in the same way that for the last two years, at least in what I'm proposing, there is a form of withdrawal from all the archetypes, even the most prestigious ones. Buddha said, one can say it for Christ too, Buddhism says: "When you meet Buddha, kill him".


We must put an end in us to the distance, to the appearance of separation. The ultimate stage in the appearance, as Cristina said of being, is empowerment. Empowerment is about strengthening benevolence and cooperation, it has nothing to do with the old criteria in business that we used to call trust, willpower. The most important thing, to arrive at this ineffable conclusion of lived experience, there is no one, and all those I can see, all the entities I can hear in this earthly plane, are concretely myself, not a part of me, but all of me inside, without any exception.


And there you live Agape, the ineffable Joy, and indeed that inner tranquillity where the creative act of Life manifests itself especially during these particular times. That's where you find resilience, autonomy, and in entrepreneurial terms, I won't talk about competitiveness or competition, but it does indeed join with cooperation, with benevolence. Whatever the time, whether it's a month, a year, a day, we are not laying in what Cristina exposed or what I can expose the foundations of a better world or a better society, but simply the effectiveness of this cooperation in the present moment, in the individual, in a group of leaders.


And that's it, and I'll end with these words, that's what Bidi said last year, bring Agape into companies. But of course the company must be attracted with sugars, with honey, and for a company, whether we like it or not, for the moment still, it is the excellence of performance and profit. All that is changing.


Independently of the collective event, it is also an awareness of the Real.


So, on that note, I will wish you bon appétit.


-Translator for Cristina: Bon appétit. At three o'clock in Portugal and at four o'clock in France and hoping that Jean-Luc "materializes" again.


Yes, well listen, I don't know what happened, we'll see and if it happens, I'll change the material.


Well, bon appétit and see you later.


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EL ESTADO NATURAL CON JEAN-LUC AYOUN. WEBINAR DE ÁGAPE (LEAD YOURSELF). PARTE 11. 14 DE OCTUBRE DE 2020. INCLUYE VIDEO AUDIO ESPAÑOL COMPLETO.


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EL ESTADO NATURAL CON JEAN-LUC AYOUN. WEBINAR DE ÁGAPE (LEAD YOURSELF). PARTE 11. 14 DE OCTUBRE DE 2020


El estado natural nunca puede ser un esfuerzo. Recuerde que lo que digo no tiene nada que ver con un trabajo a realizar, sino que es algo que se establece de forma natural sin ningún esfuerzo.

Bueno, entonces, voy a hablarte de los signos clínicos del estado natural de Ágape.

Como preámbulo, me gustaría dejar claro que cuando se está en el estado natural no se puede ignorar en absoluto. Es el reconocimiento de lo que siempre ha estado ahí. Así que quien lo vive, no hay duda, puede tener dudas sobre su salud, sobre lo que va a pasar pero no sobre lo que es.

Además, es bastante divertido; si puedo decir que en los últimos dos años debo haber tenido miles, miles de mensajes, estas personas preguntándome si son Ágape. Pero a menudo es la misma respuesta: "Sólo tú puedes reconocerte a ti mismo". El reconocimiento es inmediato, para decírselo.

Así que si le preguntas a alguien si estás ahí, bueno, simplemente, significa que no estás ahí. Sin embargo, hay una serie de signos clínicos, síntomas que afectan a todas las áreas de la vida de una persona.

Voy a tratar de darte este cuadro clínico. Los síntomas que puedo ver en mí mismo, así como en todos los hermanos y hermanas que están pasando por lo mismo, que evidentemente no se preguntan si son Ágape porque se han reconocido a sí mismos. Pero la cartografía, los signos, las manifestaciones de este estado natural son siempre los mismos.

Por lo tanto, este cuadro clínico que voy a elaborar es para darle elementos acerca de usted para identificar en usted si algunos de estos signos están presentes o no. Insisto en la noción de permanencia de estos signos dentro de obviamente algunas fluctuaciones que están relacionadas con las circunstancias de vida de este mundo.

Pero este cuadro clínico le da todos los criterios que están permanentemente activos en este estado natural.

Así que lo que nos da como síntomas, da en primer lugar una nueva sensación para los seres de una especie de fluidez, de facilidad. Está obligado a notar después de cierto tiempo que todo en su vida va sin esfuerzo.

Luego, por supuesto, está la resistencia, otra cosa son las facultades de adaptabilidad, de nueva adaptación que la persona sólo puede notar.

Otro aspecto es la benevolencia, sin pensamiento, la disponibilidad para lo que está sucediendo, una visión clara de los entresijos, los ecos y los efectos de lo que está sucediendo. Esto no es médium, no es clarividencia, sino que es simplemente algo que se observa en todos los ámbitos de la vida.

Existe lo que se llama una disponibilidad, una disponibilidad para uno mismo, pero también para todas las circunstancias por las que pasamos, pero también para todos los seres humanos que encontramos, incluso los desconocidos.

No hay un componente proyectivo, hay una capacidad espontánea de estar ahí, es decir, no en los pensamientos, la atención es mucho más fiable. La sonrisa es a menudo permanente sin necesariamente intentar sonreír.

Emociones que pueden ocurrir como en cualquier ser humano porque no se trata de no tener una emoción, pero lo que es característico de estas emociones es que no tienen ningún efecto sobre la memoria, es decir, no se vincula una emoción vivida en el presente con ningún acontecimiento pasado.

Estas emociones no tienen ningún efecto en la memoria y especialmente ningún efecto en el cuerpo. De hecho el ser humano normal ya sea ira, tristeza en la gran mayoría de los casos, hay síntomas físicos a este estado emocional.

La emoción se vive pero no impacta en el cuerpo, hay un desacoplamiento del efecto de las emociones y la mente, incluso lo veremos en el cuerpo etérico, por lo que no hay síntomas.

Cuando alguien está muy estresado, puede tener un nudo en la garganta, en el vientre, y esto es algo que casi no existe en absoluto en un individuo en estado natural.

Así que otra cosa que les parecerá extraña a los que aún no la están viviendo, la percepción es directa, no pasa por la cognición, no pasa por la percepción de una energía o incluso por una vibración.

Hablaba de la percepción directa que no pasa por ninguna visión, que no pasa por la energía o la vibración. Corresponde aproximadamente a lo que No Eyes (Sin Ojos) describió hace unos años, sin ojos, que es la visión directa del corazón.

Es un poco el mismo principio cuando les digo que hablo sin pensar, dejo que los pensamientos se desarrollen sin ninguna intervención. Creo que No Eyes lo llamó la visión del corazón.

Entonces también notamos claramente una especie de aplanamiento, de regulación de los relieves salientes de la personalidad. La estabilidad biofísica de la que hablaba en las ciencias neurológicas, la estabilidad del temperamento y de la personalidad es tal que quien la vive no puede equivocarse, hay un antes del estado natural y hay el estado natural.

El otro se vive siempre como un fragmento de uno mismo, recuerde que lo que digo no tiene nada que ver con el trabajo que hay que hacer sino que es algo que se establece de forma bastante natural sin ningún esfuerzo. El estado natural jamás puede ser un esfuerzo.

A nivel emocional también vemos lo que se llama en la psicología deportiva de una palabra inglesa llamada Flow, F-L-O-W.

Se habla mucho de ello en el deporte porque todos los deportistas, sobre todo en los deportes individuales, pueden reconocer muy bien estos momentos de flujo, el deportista trata de reproducirlo.

Les daré la definición precisa después, pero en su estado natural, el flujo es casi constante cuando lo pierdes, lo sientes al instante y la rectificación de los pensamientos o emociones presentes en ese momento te devuelve al flujo de forma espontánea.

Así que el flujo es el atleta al que todo le sale bien, por ejemplo para un tenista porque también me gusta mucho trabajar en la psicología del deporte y en el entrenamiento deportivo, el atleta que ha vivido esto una vez, jamás lo olvidará.

Es el momento en que trasciende su técnica, es el momento en que los disparos se liberan espontáneamente y todos los verdaderos atletas profesionales viven con todos estos entrenamientos, estos preparativos mentales o de otro tipo para establecer este flujo. Porque cuando estás en este flujo la eficiencia neurobiológica es máxima.

El flujo es esta máxima eficiencia neurobiológica. El movimiento del brazo y el cuerpo para el tenis es como una danza, todo parece fácil, todo le sale bien al deportista.

Así que en la psicología deportiva, tratamos de trabajar no en la técnica; en general estos atletas de alto nivel dominan la técnica pero como ellos, no están en un estado natural, tratan de volver a disparar este estado por medio de técnicas que llamamos preparación mental.

Es una técnica de terapia cognitiva en la que el deportista tratará de conectar, de revivir esos momentos de flujo que ha vivido en el pasado o en el presente.

...] utiliza técnicas de respiración y visualización, en resumen, es el trabajo del entrenador mental o preparador mental que hoy en día ocupa un lugar predominante en el acompañamiento, en el acompañamiento de los deportistas.

Así que para los que están en un estado natural, el flujo se manifiesta espontáneamente y eso simplifica la vida porque las sincronicidades, los dones, los reajustes del yo se hacen por sí mismos, sin esfuerzo, a diferencia del deporte.

De hecho, la máxima eficiencia neurobiológica es un estado de máxima eficiencia con un mínimo gasto de energía, por eso los deportistas que están en el flujo no se sienten cansados, se bañan en un baño de endorfinas y para ellos también en esos momentos, en un baño de dopamina, que les recuerdo que está ligado a la búsqueda de la novedad. Es cuando el atleta está más cerca al instante presente.

En todos los deportes nos dicen lo mismo, así que como no suelen conocer el flujo de palabras, todos nos dicen lo mismo: "Viví este partido en un estado de gracia y facilidad", sin ningún esfuerzo. Desafortunadamente para el deportista no dura.

Es un poco lo que siente la persona que está en el estado natural, la Gracia es casi constante en todos los niveles; la mente ya no dirige a la persona, es vista por lo que es, una herramienta que nos sirve cuando la necesitamos para entender las cosas que queremos comprender, pero aparte de eso la mente ya no segrega ideas, pensamientos, reforzará la disponibilidad en el instante presente.

El cuerpo, sea cual sea su edad, recupera un funcionamiento armonioso; yo lo califico como flexibilidad y elasticidad. En efecto, ya no puede haber ansiedad, ya no puede haber estrés, sea cual sea la naturaleza del estrés, por supuesto, porque el estrés representa varias causas y varias expresiones.

No tengo tiempo para entrar en detalles de esto; sólo sé que hay estrés bueno y estrés malo. Hablamos en inglés de EU-stress o lo contrario de Dis-stress en el ... así que en buen estrés ...

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El buen estrés aumenta la alerta, aumenta la motivación, aumenta el placer, la alegría; para el desestresado, es exactamente lo contrario. Pierdes tus medios, eres menos eficiente, la mente está menos clara. El manejo del estrés, ya sea para individuos o para empresas, es un conocimiento esencial. Como tengo tiempo, describiré los diferentes tipos de estrés.

Así que, independientemente del estrés bueno y malo, también determinamos un nivel de estrés global; determinamos el estrés cognitivo, algunas personas son muy buenas en ello. Son sus propios pensamientos los que generan estrés independientemente de cualquier situación estresante, y lo más importante, otro elemento importante: cuál es la naturaleza de su respuesta al estrés y eso es independiente de la cantidad de estrés bueno o malo.

Esto fue encontrado hace mucho tiempo por un investigador llamado Henri Laborit que dice que cuando se enfrenta a una situación estresante, el individuo sólo tiene tres opciones, como mencioné anteriormente: huir, luchar o negarse. Es la negación del estrés lo que desencadena esta terrible enfermedad llamada "burn-out".

Ahora, podría hablarte durante una semana sobre el estrés. Cuando hablamos de estrés a nivel mundial, debes saber que está totalmente correlacionado, está totalmente en línea con lo que llamamos en medicina estrés oxidativo en las células.

Cuando se está estresado hay un cambio en las áreas del cuerpo, los órganos, las funciones, un cambio en el metabolismo celular que da lugar a lo que llamamos estrés oxidativo extracelular donde el PH local se vuelve ácido y, si este estrés perdura, desencadenará en ese momento un fenómeno de alcalinización secundaria y la aparición de enfermedades crónicas o degenerativas en el área del esquema corporal que corresponde al estrés.

Tanto es así que el enfoque actual del estrés, de la gestión del estrés, lo tiene en cuenta y, por lo tanto, podemos corregir el estrés, ciertamente de forma mecánica, química, pero no sobre las causas, se llama en esta fase de acidez del cuerpo a los antioxidantes que regulan el estrés en el cuerpo y, por resonancia, levantan el estrés vivido.

Entiendan también que en el estado natural todo lo que es necesario y útil sucede espontáneamente. Es un estado de gracia en el que no hay lugar para la acción/reacción.

El sufrimiento ya no está activo a nivel del ser, ciertamente el dolor puede existir, el dolor físico pero no habrá sufrimiento, mientras que clásicamente en todo ser humano el sufrimiento es dolor y el dolor también es sufrimiento. El dolor del estado natural no implica ningún sufrimiento, pero es el mismo dolor.

Como les dije antes, hubo un desacoplamiento de las emociones que ya no causa daño al cuerpo y por lo tanto no hay más estrés oxidativo, lo que explica que cualquiera que sea su edad cuando está en el estado natural, su cuerpo literalmente rejuvenece.

Todos los rasgos faciales que solían estar asociados con el estrés han desaparecido. Todas las funciones fisiológicas se vuelven diferentes, ya no puede haber impulsos, ni siquiera impulsos sexuales; la sexualidad se libera de los impulsos y es un acto que se decide conscientemente, no hay más búsqueda, no hay más deseo, no hay más búsqueda de placer, hay una satisfacción casi permanente de todo lo que es.

Las necesidades fisiológicas de alimentación cambian completamente, hago una comida cada tres días, lo que yo llamo una verdadera comida; la necesidad de calorías es extremadamente reducida, todos los comportamientos adictivos se extinguen por sí mismos, el placer en ese momento está en la simplicidad, es el disfrute del instante presente y la capacidad de estar libre de todas las contingencias colectivas, sociales y morales. No hay necesidad de buscar ninguna moralidad porque, lo quieras o no en el estado natural, todo es moral.

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De todos modos, he dicho casi todo lo que quería decir, estaba metido en los cambios fisiológicos.

La cantidad de sueño necesaria se reduce enormemente, todas las necesidades ya no existen. Simplemente hay el placer de decidir. Hacer el amor, comer, pero jamás es el hambre lo que nos impulsa o el deseo de cualquier tipo; el deseo, entre comillas, es totalmente libre.

Eso es lo que tenía que decirte sobre este estado general de las cosas. Podría definirlo con más precisión, la resistencia y todo eso, pero hay definiciones en todas partes.

El estado natural se vive como un regalo permanente de la vida. Dejas que todo lo que sucede te llegue, ya no estás en control como persona y te has convertido en la Inteligencia de la Luz.

Entonces, por supuesto, todo esto es válido para aquellos que no sienten las energías y las vibraciones. Al igual que cuando se sienten las energías y las vibraciones, hay un cierto número de manifestaciones para estos hermanos y hermanas allí que son: un calor en la caja torácica, una respiración cardiaca que parece tener lugar en varias etapas y ya no en dos etapas, un estado en el que uno se encuentra a menudo en el límite del estremecimiento del éxtasis.

Ya no hay necesidad o deseo de meditar, de rezar, de hacer nada. Tu vida es una oración, estás en ese momento en la libertad interior. Estás obligado a notar que todas las áreas de tu vida se aligeran incluso si estás muriendo de una enfermedad.

Todas estas significaciones, todos estos signos clínicos, los he detectado en todos aquellos que han despertado de manera general y sin esfuerzo.

Vemos claramente, sin imagen y sin visión, lo que explicaba, es decir que todo lo que ocurre es una película, una escena teatral, un videojuego en el que eres actor, por supuesto, pero no te dejas engañar por lo que juegas.

Lo percibes claramente como auténtico, como veraz, como un todo. Lo quieras o no en ese momento, sea cual sea tu personalidad anterior, la humildad, la simplicidad son cada vez más evidentes. El placer es natural, se toma al vivir en este estado natural.

Este es el panorama general de este estado. Luego, por supuesto, para aquellos que han estado viviendo las energías que las han estado sintiendo durante años, está la activación de las tres coronas; la corona de la cabeza, la corona del corazón y la corona del sacro.

Percibes la onda de la vida que es una vibración que empieza bajo los pies y sube por tres circuitos diferentes en las piernas, a cada lado para fusionarse con el sacro.

Es fácil sentir las energías fluyendo a través de lo que se llama la Kundalini, que se llama el canal del éter. Ya no necesitas visión, ya no necesitas un escenario, ya no necesitas prever y anticiparte a menos que por supuesto tengas que viajar, comprar un billete de tren, esa es la lógica normal.

Así que aquí está el esquema general de lo que quería decirte.

Así que, antes de empezar a responder preguntas, voy a intentar cambiar de dispositivo.


-Traductora: Ok Jean-Luc, le estamos esperando.


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Bueno, esto se ve bien.


Bien, así que ahora le dejaremos tomar la palabra para preguntas sobre lo que quiera, el estado natural por supuesto, pero cualquier cosa que crea que pueda ser útil.


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-Traductora de Cristina: En línea con una situación de la que hablaba Jean Luc antes, en relación con las adicciones, hay participantes que preguntan si el vicio del tabaco tiene que ver con la personalidad.


Así que te voy a responder como Bidi, en la fase de ascenso vibratorio de 2008 a 2013, no podía fumar un cigarrillo, no podía beber café, era intolerante al gluten y era vegetariano. Hoy en día, ya no tengo ningún problema con nada de eso. Cuando tengo ganas de fumar, me doy tabaco, sabiendo que es orgánico. Así son las cosas.


Pero no debe ser una adicción. El último ejemplo hasta la fecha, fuimos a Perú en febrero, y era imperativo dejar de fumar para poder subir allí a cuatro mil metros, y no quedarse sin aliento en Machu Picchu y en otros lugares. Así que simplemente dejé de fumar quince días antes para ir a caminar, no fumé en absoluto durante tres semanas, no sentí ninguna necesidad.


Así que el tabaco no tiene nada que ver con la personalidad. Bidi murió de cáncer de garganta, bueno ni siquiera es por el tabaco, son los famosos "bidis", cigarrillos indios con eucalipto que causan más daño al cuerpo que el tabaco. El tabaco no ha impedido que Bidi sea libre hasta donde yo sé.


Por otra parte es evidente que la subida vibratoria, el acceso a la Supra Mental, va muy mal con el tabaco, pero cuando estás libre, no cambia nada. Repito, en el estado natural, no puede haber ningún tipo de adicción. No puede haber más mecanismos adictivos. Eso es lo que estamos viendo, no hemos hecho ningún esfuerzo para vivirlo, es evidente.


Podemos seguir.


-Traductora: Hay alguien preguntando si puede definir la resistencia para nosotros hoy, en esta etapa.


Resistencia, así que aquí les invito a mirar a un psiquiatra francés muy conocido, que ha escrito libros sobre la resistencia. Él es incluso el que no ha creado esta palabra, sino que la ha actualizado. El nombre de este psiquiatra es Boris Cyrulnick.


Así que, manteniéndolo simple, porque obviamente en términos de resistencia, también sabemos qué cambios ocurren en el cerebro. En pocas palabras, la resiliencia es cuando se está en el punto más bajo de la vida, cuando un cierto número de cosas se pierden o se cambian abruptamente, permanentemente, rápidamente, la resiliencia nos dice que los seres humanos nunca son tan buenos como cuando están en su punto más bajo.


En términos ligeramente menos psicológicos y menos psiquiátricos, la capacidad de recuperación es la habilidad de rebotar. Es el momento en el que el sufrimiento se transmuta en una búsqueda de novedad y cuando la necesidad de recompensa - son términos que utilicé el primer día - se magnifica. El flujo era la perfección de un momento dado, tomamos el ejemplo del deportista, la resiliencia es el momento en que estás en tu punto más bajo, que los circuitos de los reflejos de supervivencia entran en acción y te permiten encontrar la energía, la mente y el estado emocional para volver a subir la pendiente, como decimos, para salir de ese estado.


No tiene nada que ver con el espíritu de lucha, tiene un poco que ver con la confianza en sí mismo. En el estado natural, no es la confianza en sí mismo, es la confianza en la Inteligencia de la Luz. Es también la entrega a la Luz, el sacrificio a la Luz, el sacrificio aparente solamente, de nuestra historia, nuestros objetivos y nuestros proyectos.

Es la Luz la que tiene el proyecto y establece el proyecto para nosotros de acuerdo a su inteligencia, no de acuerdo a nuestras habilidades o intelecto. Por eso he repetido a otros innumerables veces: No eres tu vida, sino que eres la Vida. Pasar de tu vida a la Vida es realmente el sacrificio de la ilusión de ser una persona.


Por supuesto que la persona estará allí hasta el último aliento, pero la totalidad de la persona, cuerpo, personalidad, alma, espíritu, es guiada por la Luz. Esto es gracia, esto es dejar que la vida se desarrolle, esto es vivir y sentir esta alegría sin propósito. Estás en paz la mayor parte del tiempo. Como he dicho, no me impide si tengo que enfadarme para entrar en ello, pero no desestabiliza de ninguna manera el estado de Ágape.


Las percepciones energéticas y vibratorias, que obviamente he estado sintiendo durante mucho tiempo, ya no interfieren con la conciencia en absoluto. Todo pasa sin mí, sino a través de mí.


Esto es lo que puedo decir sobre la resiliencia, es una aptitud que se puede desarrollar, pero aquí entramos en las técnicas de entrenamiento, de acompañamiento, que no es posible evocar aquí. Sabes, podría darte una semana de webinar sólo sobre la inteligencia emocional o la resistencia, pero ese no es el punto hoy, no nos queda muy poco tiempo.


Así que otra pregunta.


-Traductora: ¿Cuál es la diferencia entre despertarse y despertar?


Despertar es experimentar. La ECM, la experiencia cercana a la muerte, es una experiencia, no un estado. Es algo que sucede en un momento dado, que por supuesto es profundamente transformador, pero estas personas que tienen experiencias inminentes, de muerte inminente, todavía están convencidas de que los seres de luz que han conocido, los miembros de la familia que han muerto, Cristo, Buda, Alá, a quienes van a conocer, todavía están en la creencia de que esto es real.


Así que, por supuesto, es transformador, porque cuando vuelven, no tienen miedo a la muerte, sienten este amor, pero no viven el estado natural. Esto es un Despertar.


El Despertar es cuando vives lo Absoluto, la disolución de la A-Consciencia y el retorno, si puedo decir en Ágape.


La gran diferencia también es que cuando se despierta, se cree en el Más Allá y no se puede entender que lo que se llama el más allá es también el mundo de la muerte. Es lo que se llama el Astral. Todas las experiencias cercanas a la muerte, sin excepción, excepto las que han pasado por la Luz, siguen siendo una ilusión. Están convencidos de que van a encontrar a sus padres, que van a encontrar a Cristo, Buda o Mahoma, claramente no han experimentado más que este mundo astral que ven, es aún más el mundo de la muerte que el nuestro. También es la prisión.


Todos estos fantasmas que se presentan en forma de miembros de nuestra familia que han muerto, siempre más jóvenes, siempre más bellos, o cuando vemos a Jesús, sentimos un amor extremo, o a Buda o a Mahoma, no importa, pero este amor extremo es del orden del sentimiento que es un amor condicionado por la forma, no tiene nada que ver con el Amor que llamamos Ágape.


En efecto, hay algunos seres que han pasado por estos fantasmas vacíos, estos llamados padres, familias o seres de luz, pasan por estos fantasmas, pasan por esta intensa fuente de luz que no se quema sino que se calienta, que es el Sol, y pasan al otro lado del Sol. Son muy raros los que logran no ser engañados por los fantasmas, porque evidentemente los fantasmas te mostrarán tu vida, te dirán: esto es bueno, esto no es bueno. Te dirán: tienes que volver a la Tierra, todavía están bajo influencia, no hay autonomía allí.


Aquellos que han ido al otro lado de la Luz, no son grandes místicos o personas que sintieron las energías, pero siguen siendo personas que tenían el gran hábito de encontrar su camino en el espacio: pilotos de aviones, pilotos de helicópteros, astrofísicos, etc. No son personas que han ido al otro lado de la Luz. Eso es despertar.


El despertar consiste en comprender y vivir que no hay despertar. El despertar es otro sueño más, y cuando vives el despertar, ya no te dejas engañar por tus experiencias pasadas, incluso las más trascendentales.

Le he explicado que he pasado años saliendo de mi cuerpo, no en un cuerpo astral, en un cuerpo de luz, no mío, de cualquier cuerpo, como un traje que me pongo. Todo lo que parecía tan magnífico, tan extraordinario en ese momento, es totalmente irreal, no hay mundo, no hay tiempo, no hay espacio, no hay nadie. Bidi dijo que es una escena de teatro, Abba y yo lo llamamos un videojuego, todo está programado, nada es libre.


Despertar es un sustituto del despertar, una copia, una falsificación del despertar. Al despertar, estás sobrecargado de visiones, imágenes, escenarios, vibraciones, es la trampa espiritual del Ser en la que han caído todos los maestros del último siglo, especialmente los llamados maestros ascendidos que son sólo los guiñoles del alma.


Es el mito espiritual, la estafa espiritual, la luz desplazada o inconsciente, pero no tiene nada que ver con la verdad y la realidad. Entiendo que lo que digo puede ser muy violento para los que aún tienen estas percepciones y creencias, pero tengan la seguridad de que todos pasamos por este estrato. Yo mismo canalizé a la mayoría de los maestros ascendidos hace mucho tiempo, creía en ello tan fuertemente como el hierro.


Pero cuando se despierta, ya no hay ninguna sujeción, ninguna adhesión posible a estas formas, a estos seres, que no sabían por sí mismos que habían sido atrapados. Te hablan de amor y sabiduría, te hablan de evolución, describen la psicología del alma a la perfección, pero no viven la realidad. No nos manipulan, son manipulados. Están convencidos de que están en la verdad, están seducidos por los mundos de la forma, por los colores, pero no viven nada de la Verdad.


Esta es la diferencia esencial entre despertar y el despertar. Para el que aún no vive el estado natural, todo esto parece muy real. Pero al final, cuando vives el estado natural, sabes que siempre ha estado ahí. Y en conclusión, desde lo Absoluto, ya ni siquiera podemos hablar de despertar o del despertar, y me gusta la terminología de Bernard de Montreal, todo este astral, todos estos seres están en el mundo de la muerte, todo el noventa y nueve por ciento de los canales vienen del astral.


Cuando empecé, no a canalizar sino a expresar a los Seres, nunca hablé de canales, de hecho el término no existía. La mejor prueba de esto está en mi libro "Contacto con los mundos de la luz", que escribí hace más de veinte años, donde ya explico todo esto. La palabra "canalización" no existía, y me refería a hacinamiento.


Después con Ramatan, uno de los gobernadores de la Intra Tierra, viví un proceso muy especial, y no les ocultaré que en ese momento no estaba realmente despierto, y sinceramente pensé que me estaba volviendo loco. Es decir que de un momento a otro, me encontré en otro cuerpo, viviendo en este cuerpo intraterreno, en un cuerpo de delfín que estaba verticalmente en el aire, a más de dos metros de altura.


Sentí este cuerpo donde no había articulaciones, especialmente las aletas, era cartílago, pero no hueso en el sentido... como nosotros. Mientras tanto, cuando estaba en el cuerpo de Ramatan, él estaba en mi cuerpo, en éste. La primera vez que pedí que me encerraran en psiquiatría, fue tan confuso, tan sorprendente. Después, me acostumbré.


Así que el proceso de caminar que fue llamado conciencia direccional (o bidireccional), es algo que viví y asimilé perfectamente, que es parte de la aparición de un camino hasta hoy. Pero como digo, y lo reafirmo hoy, todo esto ya no me interesa. Sólo el estado natural está presente. No necesito todos estos escenarios, todos estos mundos y todos estos mundos de ensueño, para ser yo mismo. Todo lo que es el cinema que esconde la verdad de ti.


No hay nadie allí. Y la Tierra aquí, en este período, es realmente el lugar de la confrontación de la realidad y la ilusión, el alfa y el omega, el primer y el último sueño que están aquí en la Tierra.


Otra pregunta.


-Traductora: Me parece que Jean Luc ya ha respondido a esta pregunta, sin embargo lo haré de todos modos. Ella va a hacer una pregunta que puede ser una continuación de lo que acabas de decir.


De acuerdo, lo haré.


-Traductor: ¿Cuál es el papel de los guías y ángeles y los que nos acompañan en el mundo de los sueños?


Así que ya vamos a cambiar la marea, todos dijimos que los ángeles, arcángeles, seres de luz nos acompañan. Es hora de entender y vivir que somos nosotros los que los acompañamos. Los ángeles, los arcángeles, el mundo, el diablo, esto es lo que soñamos.


No hay nadie allí.

Y para alguien que ha canalizado ángeles y arcángeles y todos los arquetipos, puede sonar raro escuchar eso. Sobre todo porque, cuando el que llamé mi guía, que siempre ha sido mi guía, el arcángel Anael, para los que lo recuerdan en los años 2009-2010-2011, Anael propuso radiaciones arcangélicas. Cada jueves, recibía a veces dos o tres mil nombres de todo el mundo, de Rusia, Australia, América Latina. Todas las personas que vivieron estas radiaciones arcangélicas ciertamente guardan maravillosos recuerdos de ellas, dados los testimonios que tuvimos.


Pero acepten que no necesitan ayuda, no necesitan una guía, todo esto es el mundo de la muerte, incluso en el Gran Cielo. Ciertamente un arcángel cambia de forma según la dimensión en la que se manifiesta, pero no tiene existencia propia. Es parte del sueño como todo lo demás en la creación.


Más allá de toda esta charla, algunos deben preguntarse si es cierto, si es falso. Simplemente les diré que sólo hay una solución, y es vivirla ustedes mismos. Toda esta ayuda real que nos han dado estas formas, ángeles, arcángeles, pueblos extraterrestres, con Velgan por ejemplo y el Patriarca de Vega de la Lira, sí como Velgan que canalizé o como el Patriarca de Vega, no son más reales que nosotros, están soñando.


Y como somos los creadores que crearon el sueño, también somos las Madres genetistas, también somos los Elohim, somos el niño que se muere de hambre en África, y somos el diablo que nos impide vivir en libertad. Lo que le estoy diciendo aquí no son conceptos, es algo que viven la mayoría de los que están en estado natural.


En resumen, estás completo por tu cuenta y en verdad, no hay nadie. Pero no puedes aceptar esto, no tiene sentido creerlo. Sólo puedes comprobarlo, pero para ello debes dejar de pensar que dependes de cualquier ser de luz.


Por eso Omraam dijo que no había necesidad de que él interviniera. Tuvimos el mismo problema en 2012, cuando se detuvo Autres Dimensions. Muchos hermanos y hermanas ya no podían encontrar nada en que apoyarse. Fue entonces cuando empecé a darme cuenta de que muchos hermanos y hermanas que seguían Autres Dimensions, ya sea a distancia o en encuentros, sólo se alimentaban de esta Luz pero nunca tuvieron suficiente autonomía para ver que ellos mismos eran esta Luz. Y vivirlo.


Mientras dependas de alguien en estos planos no puedes ser libre, no importa lo que digas.


Les dije hace dos días que trabajando en los estados cercanos a la muerte con los equipos del Dr. Moody y los primeros escáneres que tuvimos, podemos diferenciar formalmente entre los que sueñan que están despiertos y los que están realmente despiertos. No son las mismas imágenes del cerebro en absoluto.


En el estado de vigilia, cualesquiera que sean las manifestaciones, no habrá ninguna modificación de las estructuras cerebrales, mientras que en el estado de vigilia, en el estado natural, las modificaciones del escáner, o de la resonancia magnética (MRI) ahora, son perfectamente reconocibles.


Tan pronto como estoy en relación con cualquier persona que va a expresarse, no necesito ninguna clarividencia o sensibilidad vibratoria para sentir y ver claramente si la persona está soñando o despierta. No hablo del bien o del mal, hablo simplemente de lo real y de la ilusión.


Se puede ver como la nariz en el medio de la cara. Sólo se necesitan unas pocas frases expresadas por el hablante para entender si es natural o si lleva una máscara. El que lleva una máscara, del ego o del yo, está siempre hiper-vigilante con respecto a la mirada del otro, o la mirada de los demás. Juega un juego, necesita valorarse a sí mismo, no es natural. Aquel que es natural, se puede sentir, se puede ver, sus palabras no pueden engañar, la expresión de su rostro no puede engañar.

Es más probable que te encuentres con seres en su estado natural cuando te encuentras con un niño pequeño en la calle, en lugar de en los llamados círculos espirituales, que es un entorno hipnótico. Esa es la ilusión luciferina. Es lo que le impide ser natural en el instante presente, en el eterno presente.


Pero afortunadamente cada vez es más fácil vivir en ese estado natural. Hay un montón de hermanos y hermanas a los que se les está cayendo encima de esta manera... espontáneamente, nunca buscaron nada, pero eran buenos, en todos los sentidos de la palabra.


Recuerden que todas las búsquedas espirituales, lo que les digo aquí es formal, está escrito en el cerebro y en el corazón, todos los que están en un proceso espiritual, y todos lo hemos estado, están sujetos a un temor, el temor a la muerte. La búsqueda espiritual es sólo un miedo a la muerte que no se confiesa. No soy yo quien lo dice, son las neurociencias de la espiritualidad. Por supuesto, hay muchos otros marcadores que han sido suficientemente evocados en la época de Autres Dimensions.


Cuando estás en el estado natural, tu vida personal sólo puede ser simple y natural, en todas las áreas de tu vida. No puedes hacer otra cosa, aunque quisieras. No tienes un punto de vista para defender, no tienes un punto de vista para luchar u oponerte.


Aceptas al otro como es, incluso en su ilusión luciferina, porque sabes realmente que sólo eres tú, un poco como las llamadas subpersonalidades que el psiquiatra italiano Assagioli explicó.


¿Tiene alguna otra pregunta?


-Traductora: Tenemos muchas preguntas que están muy bien contestadas y explicadas en los sitios Autres Dimensions o Transformations, en brasileño tienes las Últimas Lecturas de la Luz. Hay cientos de intervenciones que explican exactamente estas cuestiones que se plantean aquí.


Disculpe, no escuché la última frase.


-Traductor: Estas preguntas que se plantean aquí, en el sitio de Shantinilaya, ...


Sí.


Traductora: Todo esto se explica, hablo por mí mismo, que todas las cuestiones que se plantean en sus discursos


Un momento. Porque ahora mismo, tus dos voces se superponen, lo que significa que Cristina sigue hablando, y tú sigues hablando con la voz de Cristina, hay una latencia.


Traductora: Sí, sí, hay... hay... está fuera de sincronía.


Y, sí, por lo que tu voz está siendo captada por la voz de Christina, también. Así que dejemos un poco de latencia antes de hablar...


Traductora: De acuerdo. Hay preguntas que son ampliamente contestadas en los sitios que ya he mencionado. Están traducidos al portugués, español e inglés, y recomiendo esta lectura. Sin embargo, hay una pregunta aquí que alguien se pregunta si hay, si Jean-Luc va a hacer la práctica del estado natural.


No, nunca dije eso. Se presentó así en Shantinilaya. Es un malentendido de los traductores. En el estado natural, no hay práctica. Es precisamente el fin de toda práctica. En efecto, hablé de la práctica sin práctica, hace varios meses, para la resonancia espacial interdimensional de Ágape, que fue lo que llamé la práctica sin práctica, y la manera de llegar al estado natural, pero no hay energía, ni resonancia, ni vibración que pueda llevarte allí.


Las resonancias espaciales interdimensionales hacen que vivas momentos Ágape. El estado natural es el estado permanente de Ágape. Depende de una sola cosa, no de una práctica, sino de la disponibilidad total, la aceptación, el sacrificio, la humildad y la simplicidad, pero jamás será una práctica. Creo que OMA y ABBA han explicado esto perfectamente.


Todo lo que crees que tienes, te tiene. Hasta que no hayas dejado totalmente de lado las creencias en un salvador, en un guía, incluso en el más prestigioso ser de luz, no puedes ser libre, no puedes estar en el estado natural, es imposible. Todos los que lo viven son los que han dejado de lado todo eso. Por supuesto, antes de soltarlo, siempre puedes ir y releer las canalizaciones de Autres Dimensions. Te dará algunos puntos de referencia.

Pero la Verdad, eres tú, no está en ningún otro lugar.


Necesitas deshacerte de toda esta basura espiritual. La libertad no conoce la espiritualidad. La espiritualidad es luciferina en esencia. Es un sombrero blanco y un gorro blanco como dicen. Por un lado tienes a los malos, los pedosatanistas, y por otro lado tienes a los buenos, Quanon, Trump y todo eso. Ah, te concedo que es mucho más ligero que los pedosatanes, pero es el mismo propósito: evitar que seas real.

La Luz, la Verdad, no tiene símbolo. No hay evolución, eres perfecto. Lo repetiré hasta el último minuto de mis días, no puedo decir nada más.


He canalizado los últimos Guardianes del sueño, hemos estado viajando con las ballenas durante un año porque son las que nos han acercado a la realidad, pero no son más reales que nosotros. La única diferencia es que ellos sabían que estaban soñando.


Es por eso que en todas partes ahora, en la Tierra, como anunció Phahame, allí, a principios de agosto, cetáceos, ballenas, tiburones y orcas están abandonando este plano. Están en el proceso de dejar este plano, durante las últimas dos semanas no se ha detenido. Así que, por supuesto, el que está en la emoción dirá "Oh pobres animales", pero son libres! Como dijo Bidi, cuando su esposa murió, bailó alrededor de la cama de su esposa. No estaba feliz porque su esposa había muerto, estaba feliz porque ella era libre.


Cuando estás sujeto a tus emociones y a tus percepciones, sigues estando en un punto de vista limitado, ligado a tus recuerdos, a tu aprendizaje, a tus hábitos, a tus creencias. ¿Cómo quieres ser libre en eso?


La libertad es sin persona, sin historia y sin devenir. ¿En qué quieres convertirte cuando vivas la perfección interior? No soy el primero en decirlo de todos modos, o en vivirlo. Relee "La vida de Ma Ananda Moyi", relee "Historia de un alma" de Thérèse de Lisieux, y comprenderás, intelectualmente, lo que significa.


Entonces será el momento porque retomaremos en una hora y media con una canalización muy larga de Bidi con las respuestas a las preguntas, y una hora y media es muy buena para descansar un poco el uno del otro.


-Cristina/Traductora: Hasta pronto. Hasta luego.


Hasta luego, que descanses bien.


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A través de Jean Luc Ayoun

Les Transformations


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