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INTERVIEWS WITH JEAN-LUC AYOUN. AGAPE WEBINAR. (LEAD YOURSELF). PART 8. OCTOBER 13, 2020
Good. Well, hello everyone.
So we're going to continue to build on what I was able to tell you this morning. We have gone over the notion of memory, of lying, to finally talk about this notion of evolution, of involution.
In the involutive phase in which we are, involution simply meaning, not only of course the absence of communication with reality, but involution is seen above all in what we call end-of-cycle phenomena, as has happened to many on Earth.
In the last strata of this so-called involutive phase, and being inscribed in duality, indeed, whether Bernard of Montreal, OMA, Peter Deunov and so many others have spoken of an event and globally of a paradigm shift. So there you have it.
And, of course, before 1984, there was no possibility of maintaining consciousness at the junction of Being and Non-Being. That's why all the mystics, especially in the twentieth century, spoke of either a new land or a new cycle. They entered to see the Absolute, without being able to live it, and this was intentional.
It has nothing to do with the archons, but it's part of the very process of revelation and awakening, because before the final word is written, in the whole story, the final word can only appear when the ins and outs of the film ...
-Translator: Yes, it's an expression, but in Portuguese I don't see much ... the equivalent.
The ins and outs ... the causes. It's the revelation of the enigma, as in all films, as in all plays, and the revelation and the Life of the Real, which therefore puts us in the Natural State, in Agape, cannot imagine any new cycle.
Let's be logical. If we are perfect from all eternity, if we are both the pure Light and the origin of the scenario of the film, there is no objective reason for any other cycle. From the moment you live the Real, there is no point in projecting consciousness into anything.
It is at that moment that you understand, by living it, that absolutely all cycles are part of the myth or dream of creation. But when you live the Natural State, you can no longer project yourself into any time, since there is no more time.
As I said, we are space, we are ether, and even what we have called for the last two years the face-to-face is in fact only the resolution of what Bernard of Montreal, for example, called the double, but we are also that double. And when the double merges, the body of Light merges with the physical and subtle bodies, there is no longer any possibility of being deceived by any cycle, by any evolution.
Once again, what these twentieth century beings were able to express was veiled to them to arrive at today. There is always in the scenario of a film, a play, a development of the story and a conclusion. The conclusion of the one who is Agape: We can no longer dream! We are in the Real, in the very heart of this ephemeral.
From there, the one who today, with the circumstances that we live at the level of the world, it is impossible to imagine the slightest projection of consciousness in a form.
If you look on the side of women, and especially among the Stars, whether it be Therese, Gemma, Mary or even Hildegard, Ma Ananda during her lifetime said exactly the same thing. But at the time, one could only venerate or adore her, because except for those few great beings, Bidi and Ma Ananda, it was impossible to live it. So one could only venerate them as models, as promises.
We are no longer in the time of models and promises, we are in the time of the Real, the time of authenticity, and it is impossible to lie about the Truth. We can lie within the character for the character like any human being. For example, we don't want to talk to someone, we don't answer the phone, it's a lie. But compared to the Real, it is impossible to cheat, which still makes a big difference.
And when tomorrow I will give you a psychological, energetic and behavioral picture of the Agape state, you will easily understand at that moment what your place is and what is the illusion of distance or time that it may seem to you to stay to experience it. That is all.
So, it is necessary to know that every human being, I have already told you several times, the feeling of being an individual appears at three, four years of age. Between the ages of zero and four, all the ancestral, family and astrological memories are actualized in us, as well as the very programming of your reptilian brain, there in the middle of your head, which will grow according to your initial experience, and you will go through, all of us go through a certain number of confrontations due to the very fact of our birth.
In the meta-models of regulation of the living, which I undertake to send you via Cristina after the webinar, you will have the means to fix this knowledge of the intimate mechanisms of personality elaboration.
Indeed, between zero and four years, you will encounter a certain number of functions that are called archetypal, and which I personally have named in my systems, the behavioral imprints.
So these behavioral imprints are systematic and constant, they can be functional or dysfunctional. These are the little devils I was talking about, and that you can already find perfectly described in the brochure "Crystals and Being" which is freely available both on the site les Transformations or Apothéose.live.
So what are these main archetypes ?
I give them to you in the logical order of their appearance. The first thing, the first wound, is how you live your descent into matter before being born. We know that the fetus records the emotions of the mother, the emotions of the environment, and in certain circumstances the soul and the spirit of the fetus are afraid of what they feel, and at that moment you have the most serious wound of incarnation that we call the refusal of incarnation, which corresponds to a very precise picture that I don't have time to develop now.
The second most important wound that can occur in this archetype is the moment when you encounter the first abandonment, how you live your first abandonment. That happens in the first few weeks after birth, it just takes a hunger that isn't quickly satisfied to cause abandonment syndrome.
Third, it's the mother's imprint. Almost simultaneously, the baby hears the father's voice and the father's imprint is extremely important. All this has been perfectly described long before me by a very particular current of psychology, which is the only one validated by neuroscience, called cognitive therapies, which were discovered by a great American psychologist called Aaron Beck, and then exploited by another psychiatrist called Jeffrey Young, not the Jung we know.
And the way we live the first encounter with the energies of form as a baby, will engram all your behaviors, without your knowledge or consciousness.
After daddy and mommy, we will encounter the notion of duality and the relationship as two, no longer with daddy and mommy, but with the other, whether the other is his teddy bear, a plush toy, or whether the other is a little brother or sister.
Right afterwards, once the feeling of individuality appears, comes what is called the nest imprint. In this nest, I become aware that there is me, I begin to perceive my decor more and more clearly. It is in this nest that I am nourished by mom and dad, and that I really realize that there are other individuals. It's the place, the nest, the warmth, the home, it's supposed to be the place where you feel good. And you can imagine that the way you become aware of that is either in harmony or is problematic. It's called a footprint of the home.
We saw at the very beginning, the first abandonment, which is the first imprint to appear. Around four, five years old, the notion of loss, the notion of mourning, you leave home, you confront other individuals who are neither brother, nor sister, nor family, but which is linked to schooling and socialization.
At that moment, one becomes aware that there is not only the nest, but everything else. If during this period of awareness you experience real or supposed abandonment, you will engram into the behaviors of adulthood, the fear of abandonment. And when faced with a problem, we always have only three solutions: flight, struggle and denial. It's always like that.
Then there are other footprints of course, but these are the most fundamental. Remember that it's inscribed in the reptilian brain, it's in connection with cognition, with consciousness, and the problem with this hard drive, it's an operating system that you don't know anything about.
When you use software, a word processor, there's upstream, backwards if you like, there's an operating system and any use of the software is subject to the operating system. Cognitive therapies tell us - and this is the truth - that you can't change the hard drive. Neuroscience shows us that you can't erase anything, you can only add a program on top of it, which we would call a patch or a fix.
-Translator: A cut, I didn't hear.
I was saying what we call ...
-Translator: ... you can add on top ...
No, I'm repeating it again, wait. What we call in computer science a patch or a fix, but the hard core of the operating system, it's been there from the time you were programmed, between zero and four years, until your last breath.
So you can't eliminate a programming anomaly. You just have to make a patch that will overlap. It's the same in all computer operating systems, and that's how consciousness works. Moreover, what is happening in the field of technology, you can see where we are, we are talking more and more about artificial intelligence, governed by algorithms, but artificial intelligence is another program, a control program.
We are no longer on the path of research into what are called quantum computers. A quantum computer is not based on a binary system, zero/one, but zero/one and zero and one. There are three possibilities, not two. These have been replaced by algorithms that belong to duality. The machine is much stronger than the human to handle the mechanics, the technique is much more powerful than man for the interpretation of electromagnetic signals.
You will be surprised if I tell you that an emotion is ultimately only a frequency. I have already mentioned it in neuroscience, telling you that the brain communicates with the body, through the lateral areas of the neck, through a system of fieldback, of regulation if you like, but for emotions it is the same thing.
The frequencies of the emotions are directly related to the same frequencies as the regulation of the organs of the body, between forty-eight kilohertz and seven hundred kilohertz. Fear is a frequency, sympathy is a frequency.
So we humans identify them, not only by vibration or the sensitive, energetic frequency, but there is a psychological aptitude that is almost constant in humans, which is what we call - so I'm going to spell it out for you, because it's complicated - dyssemia. It's simply the innate ability to recognize non-verbal signals. It's not energetics.
An American researcher whose name I've already given, Eckmann, has shown that emotions are not specific to a culture or an education, but are absolutely identical in all humans. Emotions are marked above all, before any expression, by the movement of the facial muscles, and when you look at a face, on an infra-conscious level, you do not need the words of the other.
I'll give you an example, surprise, joy, anger, it's always the same muscle groups that automatically come into action on the face. It's the same with a Russian, an Indian or a Papuan from New Guinea. It is always the same muscle groups that will unveil our emotions even before we express them, and every human being has the same ability.
Emotions are generated by the brain, therefore with a precise frequency, but a machine will always be stronger to analyze the frequencies. We all have an electromagnetic frequency signature, and here I took the example for us of the face, of the emotions on the face, but for a long time ... This is one of the systems that I had developed a long time ago for the French army with biological sensors, connected to rather complex technologies, and when you had an individual who passed within ten meters around the biological sensor, the machine recorded a signal.
And the emotional recognition of a machine is already perfectly developed. So more than thirty years ago, we developed these biological sensors, based on butterfly antennas, connected to a bulb of ultra-pure water, and which made it possible to detect a terrorist from up to ten meters away by the stress it generated.
This means that today, thirty years later, the elites have no need for cameras, facial recognition, vaccines or 5G. Each human being is a carrier of an electromagnetic frequency, with so-called harmonics, which is specific to each living being.
In the same way that rock crystal has a frequency of forty-eight kilohertz. Sensors today are much more developed than thirty years ago ... (cut) ... the planet, without the need for connected objects or facial recognition, fingerprints or even any digital identity.
All this is finally to show you that everything that is being sold to us as technology is the tip of the iceberg.
We know very well that we emit an electromagnetic spectrum, that we have variations within this immutable spectrum that reflect our emotional state, our mental state and our behavioral state at the same time.
I assure you that this is perfectly understood. Fifteen years ago, I worked in the city of Milan on voice recognition systems. Already at that time had been installed in Milan ... for example to enter banks, there was no camera, you were simply asked to state your name and identity, and it was an analysis of your voice spectrum recorded by the bank, which gave you access or not.
So this electromagnetic recognition, since the channel is a frequency, it's extremely sharp for a machine, you can't hide your frequency spectrum from it. Which means that everything that is being sold to us right now, facial recognition, digital identity, digital passport, are a total fraud.
This electromagnetic signature changes in a single circumstance, it is in the Agape state.
In the same way that we see auras for a medium, the etheric aura, the astral aura, the mental aura, for a medium there is at the back of the top of the head a colored band, which goes roughly from the seventh chakra at the top of the skull to the hollow of the neck, the OD star as it has been called. You have on this band at the physical level, which therefore projects on the brain stem and the cerebellum essentially, and the occipital lobes .
(-Translator ... lost ... JLA repeats)
So, I'll start again. You have on this band at the physical level, between the top of the skull, seventh chakra, twentieth point of the governor vessel, to the hollow of the neck, you have the OD star, the acupuncture point sixteenth point of the governor vessel?
-Translator: I don't know how to translate that ...
We call ... But anyway, I'm not going to elaborate because in Chinese also it has implications, but whatever. This colored band that the medium sees shows the color of the soul, really.
In the process of awakening, the soul is dissolved and you can see perfectly for a medium that the colored band that was behind the head becomes white. There are three types of souls on Earth, depending on their actions on matter: red souls are about eighty percent of humans, blue souls are about five percent, and green souls are about fifteen percent.
When you are awake, the color is white. When you are subjected to the Luciferian illusion, which is called the Self, then the colored band is yellow. This is the trap of the ego.
In the same way that we see these colors, the technology is quite capable of recording the frequency, with its frequency spectrum, its harmonics.
We can do this with the voice and it's much more reliable than facial recognition. It's as reliable as fingerprints, and everything that is being sold to us right now has nothing to do with a digital identity. It's simply deletion.... Hello?
-Translator: Yes, I can hear you.
(Laughter)
Ah, I thought, since I couldn't see you moving anymore, I thought it was cut off...
-Translator: It's just the deletion, you said ... ?
The what? Just the deletion... Wait, I lost the thread, as soon as I get out of the thread that's coming, as it's not me thinking, but it's coming by itself ...
-Translator: Frequency bands ...
Yes, that's it. Everything you're sold here is just to control you - it's not to identify you - and to suppress directly in the DNA, the possibility of multidimensional DNA.
Ascension and awakening can only take place in the body, by being incarnated here on Earth, and nowhere else. We are both the first dream and the last dream.
The blue race, the sixth root race as they say, of which both the illusionary ascended masters and Bernard of Montreal spoke, they could not see, understand and experience that the end of this cycle is the end of all that is cyclical, what I call the end of the creation myth, the end of the lie.
The problem with a lie is not to say that this is true or this is false, because within a lie, nothing is true and nothing is false, because everything is unreal. So the end of the lie is the end of distance, it is the end of time, the end of this Earth's time as of all times, and the installation in the Truth, as Ma Ananda Moyi said, as Bidi expressed it and as all other great Beings have had the prescience of it somewhere.
The only way to live that all this is a lie is already to be totally present in one's own life, in one's own dream, in one's own lie, that is, to be fully human, and to let be what is.
I know that this may seem hard to hear at this moment, at a time when many brothers and sisters, even in the waking phase but not fully awake, are in some way maintaining the lie, wanting to oppose, wanting to fight, which is not the same as Lighting the Stage.
Lighting the lie will never be to fight the lie since there is nothing real. Live the Real and you will really see that all creation is a lie. It is only a myth, it is only stories that have been secreted by consciousness, to create the illusion of distance and separation, the illusion of one form, the illusion of countless forms, in order to experience what has been called involution or descent into matter.
There has been an oversight, we have collectively decided to forget ourselves in order to give free rein to Life, and its infinite expansion. As soon as there is expansion, there is entropy, and this entropy leads to chaos, and it is through chaos that we can awaken.
When the dream is pleasant, there is no reason to get out of the dream. You cannot believe me, you must not believe me, but if you follow the scaffolding, the construction that I am giving you, you will easily end up in the Natural State whose "clinical" aspects I will develop tomorrow.
We have one hour left, so I now propose that we start interacting with Cristina and the questions.
-Translator for Cristina: Thank you, we have many questions. I would like to ask all participants ...
If you both speak at the same time (Cristina and the -translator), we can't hear.
-Translator: I'm going to ask the participants to be as synthetic as possible, we have a lot of very long testimonies. They are very beautiful, I had the opportunity to read them, and I suggest sending them by email ...
And to publish them on the Lead Yourself page.
-Translator: There you go. I suggest sending them by e-mail and publishing them on the Lead Yourself page.
But you can read one.
-Translator: Yes, she will read some of them, but the longer ones she will send.
She will send them.
-Translator: Let's start with a question.
-Translator: There is someone asking if Marie is a myth.
Yes, all archetypes are myths. There is no more Mary than there are archons than there are archangels. I don't deny the historical role, I don't deny their presence, because I have the particularity of remembering as a person all my past lives, on this Earth as elsewhere, in all dimensions.
Of course, she is the Mother of Humanity, she is the creator of the dream, she has been present on Earth, but it is also a myth. Everything we call the gods, all those who have left a mark beyond their personal path, through the adherence of groups of people, have been deviated, falsified. Until you have access to what is beyond the world of death, what is called the Great Heaven, you cannot accept it, you cannot understand it.
The devil too is a myth, God is a myth, there is only You.
Yet I told you that I have travelled in many dimensions, at the beginning of 2010, with Mikael under his wings. Then in 2018, alone as a great one. But all these are illusory worlds, secreted by consciousness, by ourselves. What I am saying here is intolerable for the Self, which is nothing but spiritual pride. The Real does not need spirituality. The Real does not need a master. The Real needs neither world nor form.
Without going into details, that would take us too far, there exists around the solar system, finally there was rather (Laugh) an impassable barrier that we call, here on Earth, Van Allen's Belt, which was a mirror of plasma that altered and falsified all the energy of the great beings who incarnated on Earth, so that all these great past archetypes were deviated during the communication with the human, as well on the level of religions as on the level of spiritual currents.
I won't elaborate any further because that would take us too far, we'll let the questions be asked instead.
-Translator: Now we have a question, maybe the first question that came up at this webinar. It doesn't have much to do with what you've said so far with satsang.
That's okay.
-Translator: But I think it fits in anyway. Why are a lot of things happening in Europe, in the United States, in France, in Quebec? And in South America, we don't see any of that. The example is that Nibiru is seen in those places, and in Bolivia we don't see anything?
That's normal. It's normal for the moment, Nibiru is visible at certain latitudes, at certain places on Earth, at certain times. Remember that Nibiru has an orbital plane different from the planets of the solar system and crosses the Earth's orbit, so it goes through an orbital curve every three thousand six hundred years. But the crossing of the Earth's orbital plane by Nibiru which occurs every 3,600 years, once every 25,920 years (twenty-five thousand nine hundred and twenty years), there is a Sun/Earth/Nibiru alignment and galactic center that we call Sagitarius A.
All the images of Nibiru, which were already available on social networks since 2010, were only ghost images. And of course, very often fakes, fakes, which were simply what we call "flair spears" ... But here, what we see on the heliospheric telescopes, and at certain times in the sky and at certain places only, it is not only Nibiru and its moons, it is dead stars and it is a Black Hole.
All this has entered our solar system with very important effects already at the level of the earth's crust. But please understand that the visibility by everyone will only be possible when the moment of Nibiru, its moons and the dead stars that accompany it, cross the orbital plane, between now and the end of January at the latest, not according to me, but according to astrophysicists. In fact, I can offer you a very simple experiment that many brothers and sisters have already done.
As individuals, we don't need to see Nibiru. Get inside yourself. Just think of the word "Nibiru" and you will feel the Joy of Nibiru. While the collective visual effect will be more of a frightening kind of thing, what we call the archetypal fear of death. It's been called the "star of death" in Sumer, Marduk. But it's not only Marduk, not counting of course the galactic flash and the solar flash, the arrival on Earth of gamma rays, that is to say the White Paradise.
There's a question being asked live, right there on the chat I've plugged in. It seems important to me.
The question is: To get through all the thoughts, emotions and suffering, how do we get there, get into our hearts, make the mental void?
But you will never be able to empty your mind. You are not the one who is going through it. It's all that passes through you. You just don't have to stop them. It's not about refuting suffering or emotions or thoughts. It's about observing them, being neutral. And then you will see clearly. If you want to oppose your thoughts, your emotions and your suffering, you will strengthen them. As I have explained at length, it is the complaint syndrome that is validated in brain imaging.
It is the error of all twentieth century psychologies. We all think, wrongly, that when you have something: an emotion, a suffering, it doesn't matter, we all have a tendency by the duality of this world, and it's logical, to want to treat, to want to explain, to want to cross over. No such willingness will allow you to do so. Even worse, when you get hold of something, when you analyze it and when you understand it, you will feel cured because the suffering involved, the emotion or the thought involved is no longer in your consciousness.
And as I explained, ten years to twenty years later, you will crystallize an organic disease. There is no solution within the person because as long as the question is asked like this, it only proves one thing: you still consider yourself as a person who has problems. The problem is not the problems! The only problem is you, as long as you think you are a person who should solve this or that. I will take a very simple example and God knows that I have been, well, God knows, let's say that I have been an assiduous follower of reincarnation, of energetics.
At the time, I could explain any pathology in relation to the symbolism of the body, in relation to karma, in relation to emotions or thoughts. Of course there is a relationship. All the symbolism of the human body is real in illusion, but it is not the Real. Of course all symbolism, for example for those who know Annick de Souzenelle, who wrote almost forty years ago now, an extraordinary book: "De L'Arbre de Vie au Schéma Corporel", which makes the links with mythology, symbolism and the very shape of the organs of the body. This connection is real in illusion, but it has no existence in the Absolute.
All the difficulty lies here. It is not just letting go. Anaël in 2009 insisted enormously on the Abandonment to the Light, which is nothing but the Abandonment to the Real, the Abandonment to Intelligence. This is the sacrifice of the person. It is not flogging, whipping or suffering. It is letting be what is, because as soon as you put your finger in the gear of wanting to go beyond thought, emotion or suffering, you are trapped. Hear what I am saying!
If I have a headache, I put on an aluminum cap first. If the headache persists, it is not cosmic radiation, and at that moment I take a doliprane (aspirin) or I put a crystal on my head. But I don't ask myself how or why. I accept what is, that there is something that bothers me, to consider physical or energetic sedation. But, I never bring any causality or psychological disorder into it again. So there is an attitude of mind, an attitude of consciousness that allows acceptance and also transcendence.
When you understand how it works by living it, you can never forget it again. Agape puts an end to any quest, to any search for a cause, to any need to oppose, to struggle. But I will develop all this tomorrow, perhaps in a clearer way. As Bidi used to say: "It is not the person who is liberated. It is you who are liberated from the person."
Cristina, perhaps I'll give you the floor again.
-Translator: Hello. Most awakened people talk about the fifth dimension, the new Earth, the Planet Grid, the Flash or making us invisible in the third dimension. I don't know what to think anymore. It's nothing or it's a continuity in another dimension? I am lost and many times in panic.
What?
-Translator: I am lost and many times in panic.
The more you are lost, ...
-Translator: I don't have a job anymore. I no longer have a salary. I feel at the end, but at the end of what? Is it long or is it a great illusion? Thank you.
The chaos, the loss of reference points becomes more and more collective. You will be able to participate less and less or feed the lie. It is done on purpose by the Intelligence of the Light! Everyone has a specific and different scenario that leads us all to the same final scenario. And if Life imposes this on you, if the Intelligence of Light imposes this on you, please do not go looking for what your karma is or what your mistake is! This is the opportunity you have given yourself to be free! And the more you will be lost, the more you will find yourself. It is inevitable and unstoppable.
But don't delude yourself, chaos can only grow. It will grow more and more exponentially between now and the end of the year. At what point do you let go of your pretensions in this world, even the most vital ones, to eat, to pay the rent, to earn a living? At some point, which belongs to each one of us, you will be in total disarray with regard to this world and with regard to your life. And the more chaos there will be in your life, and the more chaos there will be in society, the more you accept to let go, the more Joy you will be! You must not confuse awakening with awakening. It is much more than an initiation. It is accessing the Real and being the Real.
Everything we care about, holds you. In the first place the society of men, in the first place the vital needs that are no longer satisfied. And it is at that moment, when you are in the deepest hole, in the deepest illusion, that you can find yourself, not before. As long as you are in comfort, in security and in certainty in this world, no space of Freedom can be open to you. Whatever the circumstances, you must understand once and for all, that there is nothing to understand in this dream.
Of course, you can have countless knowledge to explain this world, to explain the laws of this world, to see the lie and that is not why you are in the Real. The proof is that you have many brothers and sisters today who are in so-called spiritual paths, in schools, even so-called spiritual schools. So, I know that right now it's fashionable to use series of numbers, reiki and so many other things, but there is no Real in that. These are things that are applied to this world. And what is applied to this world will never allow you to live the Real.
You can live the Luciferian illusion: "Wow, I'm in the light!" - "I am a Warrior of Light!". That's cinema. You don't need energy. You don't need all these tricks today. Be authentically yourselves, lucid about this dream, it is the only reality we know and everything will be fine. As you let go of all your pretensions, whether it is the pretension to have a job, to have a husband, a wife, a home, you will realize that all this will be given to you, but as long as you hold on to it, you will lose it.
This is the only way out of the dream, it is that the dream becomes the absolute nightmare, which is settling down on earth as it is in heaven. I repeat, it's not just Nibiru coming. It is an entire solar system, plus dead stars, plus a black hole. Just look at what is happening objectively for those who are curious, on data that is accessible to everyone on the Internet.
Look at earthquakes, look at volcanoes, look at the space rocks that are coming down to earth or around the earth. I would like to point out that all the planets in the outer solar system have already changed their physical poles. Global warming is the warming of the entire solar system. Poor humans that we are, we have nothing to do with it. It's all about manipulation strategies.
The only true state, the Natural State, is Joy, which does not depend on anything, which is not permanently affected by anything. Of course the person is still there until the end of the days. The person has the right to react, but we are not fooled. Everything you care about is yours without exception.
Cristina.
Cristina: Oh, yeah.
-Translator: Bernard from Montreal says: That's why the one who died is a total prisoner of memory, even though he has evolved a lot in past eras. Because what he has learned will always be conditioned by memory and not by the universal intelligence with which he does not have, he cannot have a total link.
-Translator: The question is: When you channel people who have died, OMA, Bidi or others, if they are not included in their lives, what you channel comes from their memory or from what they have lived on Earth?
Neither one nor the other.
As for the Elders, the Stars, who were all incarnated on Earth, Omraam had explained perfectly that at the moment of their transition, they were taken to a protected space which was the highest level of the astral, in a kind of vessel of Light, but of course they are still in the world of death. Only Bidi, whom I never channeled, but who is simply in ultra temporality with me.
I can relive every minute any moment of Bidi's life as a "Walk-in" phenomenon, as I experienced with Ramatan, but independently of any temporal notion. Time does not exist, so the person who asks this question is in the mental analysis of Bernard's texts from Montreal, but I repeat to everyone, it is not because you understand texts that you live it. If you live it, there can be no more questions of this kind, since the Earth, the astral planes, and all the other dimensions do not exist.
You are still, it is as if you were asking me questions about the Bible, it is of no use to you today, it is of no use to you either to listen to me if you don't want to go inside yourself, if you don't want to abandon yourself to what is. You are turning in your head, you are in need of understanding.
I have provided you with many elements of understanding of the living for more than ten years, I have shared my knowledge, but I cannot share my lived experience. It is up to you to live it. On the other hand, I can see the changes that occur in my life at all levels, not only health, not only morphology, but really at all levels. And that doesn't deceive.
There is no need to have an IQ of one hundred and fifty or an EQ, a perfect emotional coefficient, it's accessible to the simple-minded. You won't get away with comparing what I say with what Bernard from Montreal said, or even with what Bidi said.
These were individual processes.
So from the state of the non-awakened, non-awakened human being, it seems to you something admirable that seems so great compared to you, but that is the old world. You don't need anybody. There is no other solution than the Natural State. There too, when you talk to me about this text by Bernard of Montreal, you call upon the writings, the experiences of the time, and there was a formidable precision in everything that Bernard of Montreal described, but as long as you don't live it, it's of no use to you. It remains mental, it remains knowledge.
And I use my knowledge, what I have studied, but what I have lived has nothing to do with any knowledge that is simply going back up the line, and with capacities of analysis, but especially of synthesis. I have integrated all this according to a logic.
A Catholic would say to me: "You can't be saved without Jesus". There is a savior. But you are still in history when you say that. You've seen for the past two years, for those who know me, that I've been trying to banish as much as possible from my speech all that is historical, all that is memorable, all that is energetic and all that is vibratory.
You are all in me, the devil like everyone else, and this is true for everyone, you are all Abba. But you cannot believe in this world and these laws and live the Truth of Grace, it is impossible. It is up to you to live the experience. I don't need to convince anyone, I don't need to demonstrate anything. The only demonstration is when you live it, but if you are attached to Bernard of Montreal as well as to Autres Dimensions, or even to me, you will never be free, never, except at the collective moment.
But when you remember, and you can only remember it by living it, it is not a memory, it is the memory of Time Zero. In Time Zero, there is no history, there is no master, there is no more Bernard than Bidi, there is no OMA, there is no Mary, there is nothing, and yet there is Everything. So let us be humble enough to accept that we cannot understand the Real, we can only understand Being.
Let us continue.
-Translator: First of all I would like to thank and thank you to the Impersonal, Sunday evening after the canalization I still managed to live a little Agape. Gratitude for that. My doubt is the following, I have already done several treatments with you in Agape resonance.
It's not... I'm cutting, it's not an Agape treatment.
-Translator: Okay. Until recently I used the scalar wave support, but after forty-eight hours I have not seen significant permanent effects and this contrasts with many testimonials I have read. Thank you for telling me why?
Why?
If you live moments, if you call them moments of fullness, of emptiness, if you call them this puff of Love that comes in at times, and it doesn't last, it means that you are not sufficiently ready. It simply means that somewhere inside you, you still believe in this character, in this world or in your story. Whoever really and sincerely no longer believes in his story, in his character, is truly and permanently free. As long as fragments of your person are superimposed on Reality, there can only be suffering.
So the question is not why? The explanation is always the same, it's not yet the time, but remember as did Grandpa (OMA) at the time, it's simply the principle of the carrot and the stick. If there is an apparent disappearance of the Natural State, it is because somewhere still there is resistance. There is no question of judging oneself. It is not a question of knowing why. It is simply a question of letting go. As long as you think that your person can act on the Real or on the Intelligence of the Light, you are in illusion.
Accept this, there is nothing to believe and you will live it. The countless testimonies for two years now from brothers and sisters who are living it, we all tell you the same thing: "It has always been there".
But we have dreamed so much or we have so many nightmares that we have forgotten it. It is that somewhere there is still a will to want to change, to want to improve what is. I can only repeat this sentence, which is deep, very deep: "Everything that must happen will happen, whatever you do, everything that must not happen will not happen, whatever you do". There is true Freedom, there is true Life.
As long as you don't understand this profound aspect of this sentence, as long as you don't live it, you can only go around in circles. You're not in a process of personal development, you're not in a process of acquiring powers or gifts, you're in a process of restitution to the Real and you can't do anything.
Accepting not being able to do anything is already accepting the pre-eminence of the Intelligence of the Light and of the Real that we are. You cannot serve two masters at the same time, either the master and the ego or the Self, or the master and the Real. And when I say you are the Real, I am absolutely not addressing the person, or even the soul, but directly touching the "I remember".
So, when you are in the discussion, what is right, what is true, what is wrong, what is false, you are still subject to judgment, to the circuit of punishment. What I am telling you here are not theories or elucubrations, they are very real neuroanatomical data within the very construction of our body. This is what I tried to make you understand on the first day and yesterday.
In the end, I don't give a damn today about what anyone has said. No text or any experience other than mine can comfort me or make me doubt what I live in the Absolute.
For many years now I have simply noticed all the changes that have occurred, in my body, in the mechanisms of thought, in the mechanisms of emotions, but above all in this unspeakable Peace and Joy, whatever the character is experiencing. I have never claimed to be a saint or a master, especially not. I am a human being with the things he loves, but unlike you - perhaps - I know that this is a dream because I have lived it. So I offer as little resistance as possible to what is.
Christ, so I'm going to take a historical example, one for once in the webinar, Jesus said: "Does the bird care what it is going to eat tomorrow". Unfortunately, society forces us to think about it. The problem is not the Earth, the problem is society. Krishnamurti said: "It is not at all normal to feel healthy in such a system".
The matrix, the 3D system, doesn't give you any resolution space. Look even at the Ancients, the Melchizedeks, they too were arrested in the world of death. Only Bidi had access to the Great Heaven at that time. Today the Great Heaven is accessible to everyone, but you can't see yourself as a person, as a history and be free. You feed the myth, you feed the illusion rather than seeing yourself in Truth.
When you live the Truth, well, that will be tomorrow, that will be my final word by the way, you lead to the natural state with all its characteristics at all levels of your life, but that I will develop tomorrow. It will be time now to stop.
We retake it at 7:30 p.m. for me, at 6:30 p.m. for Portugal where OMA will occupy the two hours with the Cosmic Agape in the middle, what he has to say, and also maybe if we have any questions for him.
So I tell you at the level of my expression, see you tomorrow morning, and see you in an hour and a half with my "form" anyway.
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Through Jean Luc Ayoun
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Transcription from French: https://www.facebook.com/Transcriptionsfr
English revised translation: LMF - DeepL translator
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