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O.M. AÏVANHOV. PART 2. JUNE 8, 2019. INTERVIEWS IN QUEBEC JUNE 2019
Well dear friends of the new France we will be able to continue, (laughs in the room), with your questions which are exciting and I am learning new words. I remember the word "mixed".
So I'm listening to you.
- Question: Should geneticist mothers do the same kind of reparation as you did?
Obviously reparation concerns all creation and as you are the synthesis of all that has been experienced by being incarnated today on earth, each one of you is repairing and from the most significant who believes himself insignificant in his life, in his suffering, to the geneticists' Mothers. I suggested earlier, when I told you that there is no responsibility not to seek in any way or guilt, but still... who created?
It is the consciousness itself. And, the first consciences in the dream... who was it? And of course there is compensation.
Reparation, even if you are not responsible, imagine that you have Mary in front of you. Mary at the time she didn't know she was Mary, that's what was embroidered by the Catholic Church. Then, Mary until her assumption on August 15 did not know who she was, she had always refused titles and functions. She was so humble and innocent... that she understood nothing about what was happening at that time, because the veil of oblivion is the same for everyone, as soon as you are incarnated. It's the same for the Elohims, it's the same for Orionis.
Of course it was the same for us until last year, but it is the same, I would say, for each of you who are incarnate.
And the only reparation is not to pay something, it is to embrace the truth and live the truth. This is the only reparation and this is what you are experiencing, you see, there is no way to escape this reparation, since we are all in each other and it is liveable, it is understandable by living it.
Repair is done from one person to another through contamination, through zero time, that's what repair is all about. It is the end of the dream, there is no punishment on the contrary, it is a great joy.
So there was no reparation in the karmic sense, in the sense of a story, since I repeat, we all played, without exception, absolutely all the roles, from the first temporal instant of the creation. So the geneticists' Mothers in the same way as us, in the same way as each of you who is incarnated today on this earth. But don't think of this word of reparation as something that needs to be put in order, it's simply a return to the initial instant that is nothing more than the final instant. The loop is closed, everything is accomplished, you realize it individually and more and more collectively, from all over the world.
That it goes through energy and vibrations, that it goes through science, that it goes through the most troubled areas of this modern world; everything is revealed. And this revelation is not a punishment. On the contrary, what I could call redemption is true redemption rather than reparation, because in the term "reparation", which is real, there is nevertheless, unintentionally, the implication of a fault. But no one has made any mistakes, we have all done so individually, collectively. But it wasn't a mistake either, it was... The whole creation passed, was a dream, was an experience. You had simply, and like us, forgotten that it was a dream.
Yet Bidi had hammered it when he was incarnated but also, from the year 2012. You see we are in 2019, he too came back after moments of silence to complete what is to be completed, that is to say the end of the dream. So there is no superiority, no inferiority, no guilt in this, but this redemption that is offered and that you have offered yourself. Because it was planned, it was written and I repeat, long before the creation.
There is only the absolute, there is only love, there is no one. That's what freedom is all about.
Of course I said it the character he will be there until the last moment but he is no longer subject to habits, thoughts, mind, energies, vibrations, visions. He is subject to nothing because he lives freedom, he lives the truth, he lives joy and whatever the circumstances of his life or the demonstrations, whatever they may be, he is never fooled by all this again. And it is a weight less, indeed, and it is at that moment that the heart ignites, that the body can ignite, that the hands and feet also ignite, that there are different ways to do it, whether it is the simple smile, whether it is a simple moment of timelessness, where you become space. Many of you have already experienced this even many years ago.
But today it is the manifestation within the dream of truth that enlightens everything. We had prepared you for this for many years even if we ourselves had not been abused, but had still been subjected to the history of dimensions, to the history not of evolution but of experimentation of your stellar origins, your stellar lines, your visions related to consciousness, of experimentation of naked consciousness, for those who lived it last year or who still live it today.
But all this, of course, was written. Was written and is now being seen and there is no other word, the more you accept to be simple, the more you are alive, the more you embrace everything, without making any distinction with the same equality, the more you discover joy, the more you discover that you are the truth. And this truth, as I said earlier, is absolute.
And as "Head Chief " (JLA) said and as it has been repeated by many speakers in recent weeks: there is nothing but that, and that is the joy. It is either this naked love that does not depend on a circumstance, that does not depend on a particularity, it is something that is there, available, accessible for everyone.
And also I repeat, especially if you live nothing, have no guilt, it is a form of preservation. Because if you work at a time that has not been written, of course, you may not be mature enough, if I can say so, and I am not talking about age at that level, eh, but about inner maturity to accept this revelation of truth and continue to be humble and live your life, without necessarily wishing to change anything. Unlike what happened for many years during the celestials weddings, until 2012 and even 2014-2015 when, under the impulse of light, sometimes also of your decisions, you organized certain changes in your relationships in your way of life and in the context of your life.
And that has allowed you to get closer to the life you live now when you are in that joy that depends on nothing and needs no demonstration, needs no proof, because when you live it, you cannot ignore that it is the truth, you find yourself in wholeness. No one can be abused or deviated from that. Listen, read the testimonies of brothers and sisters who have already been living it for a few weeks, for a few months.
They know who they are, not in the being, not in the character who is there but in the non-being that has entered into manifestation.
This is what Bidi said: "the unknown has become the known".
It is accessible right here, in this body, in this illusion, in this dream, in the middle of your chest and it has nothing to do with vibration, nothing to do with consciousness.
But notice that in my words as in the words of anyone of the speakers, notice that your conscience is unwittingly trying to grab its concepts to understand them. It's normal, it's logical, but it can't be an understanding, ever. It can only be lived and as Abba said, by "Head Chief”
If you put understanding in front of it, you cannot live it, even if you know all the mysteries of physics, all the scientific mysteries. You may have all the occult, esoteric, scientific knowledge, have lived all the possible and unimaginable experiences, but you are not free. Freedom is something else, which has nothing to do with all this cinema, and you can only agree when you live it and you can only ask yourself questions when you do not.
But don't ask yourself too many questions there too, know that, there too, as Abba said, it's not quite the right time for you yet. Be humble, be simple, live your life by accepting everything that is happening, by going through everything that life imposes on you or offers you with the same equality of mood if I can say, with the same embracing capacity and just behind, just after or just before, there is truth, naked joy, Agape. Everything else will fade away on its own, there is no effort to be made, as I said, you do not have to struggle by the need to understand, in relation to your obsessions or any manifestations whatsoever. You just have to accept it and then you will experience it and then you will understand it and besides you will not care at all about understanding it.
You will no longer be attached to explanations, you will no longer be attached to a need to justify, a need to enlighten, the lighting cannot come from your head. The lighting can't come from an explanation today. It can only come from this naked joy when you are as close as possible to zero time or the black hole. It's the same thing.
And there, suddenly or gradually, the abode of supreme peace, the junction of being and non-being are alchemised together, the meeting point of being and non-being is in the person, here in the middle of this flesh in the chest of all people.
So, another question:
- Question: You say that everything has been written. By whom?
By the light itself, by Abba who was prior to creation. And by, as everyone is Abba, the first particle, the one and only consciousness, the One Consciousness, the Superconsciousness, decreed at the first manifestation, that the multiplicity, fragmentation and individuation of consciousness within a form, within a dimension, would allow to create time, to create space, to consider a separation, to believe oneself an individual. But we had to find the meaning, the meaning, as I said earlier, it doesn't make any sense, but it was experienced from the moment of zero time, that is, before creation.
It wrote itself, and the writing couldn't be any other than this one.
Everything today is in exactly the right place, whatever you think, whatever you say, whatever you argue. This is exactly where you must be, that is, in this body and in this life, to discover life, to discover Agape and to live it. And all of you who have passed and crossed and are living Agape can only see it, they all tell you the same thing even if the experiences may initially be different. Between the fire of the heart, the burning of the body, the burning of the extremities or the simple smile or the simple moment of eternity lived without any will or intention.
That's the truth.
So it was all written, by whom? But by the initial moment itself.
All the possibilities of dreams have been dreamed of, out of time and space, that is to say the Alpha which is nothing more than the Omega. You can't understand that either. It can only be experienced. But when it is lived, the understanding is instantaneous so after of course everyone will try to put words and "Head Chief" has put words that he does not choose. The explanation comes after, its words are self-evident. That's why it was all written.
I think "Head Chief" talked to you many months ago about what happened with the whales. It was never decided. It is the intelligence of light that is at work and it is certainly not your will or your mind or your thoughts, or even your vibrations. He who lives the truth can only tell you the same thing with his words. He can't say anything else it's impossible. And you can take the problem in all directions in your head, you can't get out of it like that, it's been repeated dozens of times in recent weeks. Understanding comes from experience. If you are trying to understand, you cannot live it.
What is trying to understand is the person. What seeks to understand is the Self, spiritual pride, but you are understanding yourself; by your presence, by zero time, by the fire of the heart if you will, or the three-beat rhythm at the heart level for example. But you can only go in circles if you want to understand in order to be able to live it. That's why it's better to stay ignorant and live your life as simply as possible today. You are more likely to live the truth by conforming to what the illusion of the dream gives you to live, and not elsewhere. Certainly not in visions.
You have many brothers and sisters who have gone astray and that's okay.
When they get tired of seeing that they are not living Agape, no matter what they say, they will have to face the facts. When they are fewer and fewer in number compared to the mass of those who live Agape, they will be forced to accept this as the only truth.
Acceptance will be made at that time.
They will not be able to refuse the gift of grace.
They will not be able to refuse to be Agape, even if today they sometimes oppose each other head-on, but that is the need for confrontation, the need to measure themselves, the need to be a leader. The need to help, the need to serve, the need to show oneself, the need to feel useful. But love needs none of that. Absolutely not. You are spontaneously the service, you are spontaneously the gift, you are spontaneously the child when you are in zero time.
Let things be and not be. You can't do anything today, less and less from your character. There was a question earlier about happiness, but happiness is an illusory quest. Happiness comes and goes. Naked joy, when it has come, even if it seems to fade, can never, ever be forgotten, it is unforgettable, it is written. You can only recognize yourself but you cannot understand it.
Understanding is only the experience of this joy, regardless of the symptoms again. Whether it is the ascensional crowns, the fire of the sacred heart, the Agape resonances, the network resonances, the absorptions of the essences or the pronunciation of your verb which is your last name and your first name.
And then you can only see that your life continues to run its course until the event, without any expectation, without any desire, but with evidence, more and more every day, you are present to yourself, in the present moment. This does not prevent you from having projects, you are not bound by the projects, you are setting an intention. It may or may not come true. You're no longer bound by your memoirs, that's been explained too.
There are still some among you who go through memories of cleansing past lives that concern the person, but they live them without stopping them, they do not ask themselves any questions, they are in the magnified observer, the glorious observer who is nothing more than the observer in the sense that Bidi meant it, it is the eternal Absolute I who has never moved. And who is independent of creation, independent of universes, independent of everything. It is inscribed in everyone, right here on this Earth.
You can't understand it, you can only live it.
So put aside the explanations, not the questions of course, but put aside everything that is bothering you, these are dead weights that are linked to your habits, to your functioning since all the incarnations within the dream; without any possibility of getting out. Today it's different.
So I'm listening to you.
- Question: Could you clarify what was said yesterday about Quebec, namely that here it was the beginning and it will be the end.
But I didn't talk yesterday.
- Voice: It was "Head Chief" who told us that.
Ah, was it "Head Chief" who said that?
Yes, in the last few cycles, so you may know that there have been five works. These five works have each been completed by the process of extinction on this Earth. It is the cycles of confinement that I have been telling you about for years, the six times 50,000 years since the beginning of confinement, it is the sixth time today, the sixth cycle, the sixth dream. Phahâme explained it to you.
What I mean by that is that what happened, the place where the first dream was created, was Hawaii. The place of creation of the last dream was the Canary Islands. All right. But in this last dream cycle, the organization of life within the dream started from one point and must return to the same point. This first point was not Palestine, it was Quebec. With a different climate, of course, because this was before the last change of the poles, more than 12,000 years ago.
So yes, he said "Head Chief" that it all started here, didn't he? That the last dream started here. It has materialized here.
- Voice: That it was the beginning and it will be the end.
That's right.
And as has been said, every year, by circling the sun, you go back to the same apparent place, but you know that the whole solar system is also moving. But every year you go back to the same point, to another octave, it's the same for creation. The successive civilizations that have been present for 10,000 years have travelled around the world. A civilization started from such a place on the planet and as successive civilizations have succeeded each other, they appeared more than 2000 years ago, having travelled around the Mediterranean, leading to the Mediterranean, and today's Mediterranean has nothing to do with the Mediterranean of 12,000 years ago. And the beginning and the end, within the last dream. There is the last dream of course it is the Canary Islands, and that you have been there for 50,000 years and we were there with you too. But within this last dream there has been a cyclical journey that has taken place over these 12,000 years, not only in the Egyptian Canaries, you know today that there are pyramids from all over the world. In the same way, in this country dear to my heart, there is indeed a return to origin somewhere.
That is, what you express each other, in relation to other peoples, other inhabitants of other countries even if we are One, in any case it is the reality of your experience which is marked by global spontaneity, of course there are always "black sheep", but overall you are, I would say, the closest to the truth. The truth within your humanity.
That is, kindness, that is humanity, and besides, I believe that on your license plates there has always been something written. What does it say about your plates?
- I remember.
How?
- I remember.
And yes, you forgot (laughs) but you're the one who says it. It's not a commonplace thing, is it? Life is comical. So within the last dream that began more than 50,000 years ago between the Canaries; Africa and Europe, the columns of Hercules of Gibraltar. There have of course been privileged places where civilizations have passed through. So I'm not going to give you a history course on the civilizations of Mesoamerica, South America, the Mediterranean, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
But that's exactly what it means, that is, that somewhere, as a community, as a people, if you will, as a country, you are actually at the source. When I tell the source, you're not responsible. You are at the place where the last dream ends and you are also at the place where the last dream begins.
The creation happened I said it first Eden Hawaii, last Eden, last Eden, last dream the Canaries, but between the two, the beginning of the last dream and the end of the last dream, which was the driving movement, in a way the recreation.
Confinement again. You have moved collectively by circling the Earth. We know very well, for example in America you have the "Viracocha", who are beings who came from Eastern Europe so civilization and peoples have turned and made a complete tour too, not in one year, but in 12 000 years. Back to the starting point, the Alpha joins the Omega. It is inscribed in the cells, it is inscribed in the countries, it is inscribed in the peoples of these countries, of course.
That's what I think he meant.
Then you can continue.
- Question: Thank you for being here. Could you tell me what's keeping me from lifting the veil of oblivion?
Well, that's what I said earlier, we responded in advance.
This is not quite the right time. The best way to live it is not to enter into resistance or comparison, of course, with those who live it, is to drink from these testimonies and experiences, while accepting not to live it and to live your life normally, without seeking anything, letting everything come to you. Then at that moment, the veil of oblivion will disappear.
This is the moment when, as it was said in the apocalypse of Saint John, you will wash your robes in the blood of the lamb. Dresses are seamless clothes, they are the body of eternity. It's not the subtle bodies. The body of glory, the immortal body, the seamless body, is the body of eternity.
Washing the body of eternity means giving it back what? Its original whiteness, independent of the shape, is what has been called "the white paradise", which is a prerequisite for the black hole. It's the flash of light, it's the event. And Abba told you, you are the event. You have nothing to expect, neither for yourself nor for anyone else, you just have to be totally present. And if you are really totally present, that is to say, free of any memory in the moment, of any projection and that you are totally available, to live in the moment. You are free, the veil of forgetfulness dissolves, at the right time. There's nothing to stop it.
It's just, how you say, a story of timing within the illusion and also a form of preservation somewhere. But remember, the last ones will be the first, in fact there was never any first or last but it also means that, like the children, whom I told you not to worry about, rather, worry about yourself at the time. Today, as a child, those who live nothing will experience it with an obviousness and an ease that will be profoundly different from those who today, care about their visions, energies, needs and thirst, most often unconscious unfortunately, for ancestry or power over the other.
Whether it is in a couple, with a child, or a group. And we elders are perfectly aware now, if I may say so, that even if we had created spiritual movements independent of religions and well, all this had been diverted.
Simply because as soon as another brother or sister considers you as a master or as an awakened being when he is not, he sets up a relationship of dependence without your knowledge. And the relationship of dependence it never goes through the heart, it doesn't even go through the emotional. It passes over the place of predation, i.e. the second chakra.
And there all the ways are possible and there is nothing you can do about it. Because the heart was not connected to the second chakra, I refer you to everything that was said last year by "Head Chief" and by Abba concerning the primary anomaly, I will not talk about it again today. But you have an important literature for those who are curious, to see what the primary anomaly was and what the disappearance of the primary anomaly induced in all the bodies of the planet but also at the level of this plasma insulating layer which permanently reflected the image.
You can continue.
- Question: It's a dream: my door keys to get home are not functional but I can open my neighbour's door.
(Laughs in the room)
And that's it?
- Voice: Yes, that's all.
So this is a multiple entry point, let's say, I can't give uniform explanations, but the most successful explanation, I would say, even if there are plenty of them, is that you are one in the other and you are one in each other.
(Laughs in the room)
Really.
One more question.
- Question: Yes, it's called the misunderstood phenomenon: two years ago, the doorbell was activated several times around 5 a.m. No one is present at the door after checking.
- Three or four months ago, the phone rings, I'm still the only person present who can hear it.
- More recently, the alarm clock is activated twice within 10 minutes around 5 a.m. when I had not previously activated it. Every time I get out of bed and close it. For each of these experiences, I don't feel fear, I feel like someone is trying to communicate with me. That's all.
That is the truth. Demonstrations like this are usually related to what is called an entity that wants to communicate with you. But there are also processes, uh how do you say, pathological, linked for example to a great suffering that is manifested by, what is it called, poltergeists I think. If it sounds that way, I don't know. The striking spirits, but which are generated by your own energy field, but ultimately it makes no difference. Here too, in the absolute, it came to tell you: it's time to wake up, my dear.
Even if it were an entity and I would say even if it were a pathological process, it doesn't have any kind of importance, what had to understand is not the understanding of who it is or why you are, why at this time of day. It came to tell you: wake up. Besides, you talk about waking up in the morning, I think, and ringing the doorbell. It's still very, very special. It is as if the intelligence of light or an entity or your own inner wound told you: but what are you waiting for? In French it sounds like a dirty word," but what the hell is going on? »
(Laughs in the room)
And how many times did he do that on, in the morning?
- Voice: The alarm clock is activated twice within 10 minutes.
But all this was in the same period? It is not mentioned in chronological terms.
- Voice: No.
It doesn't matter. What you have to understand is that it's time to wake up what... that's all. Who cares who it is? Anyway, it's just you. And besides, you don't even exist, so there's no one there.
It is the spirit that knocks at your door, the spirit of truth, the paraclete, it is the choir of angels. It has been manifesting itself in every possible way for many years now. And in different ways, not only through mechanisms like this but through all possible opportunities and pretexts. Anything that may not seem to you to understand each other. Pleasant as well as unpleasant, as any element that would occur, if I may say so, and that would burst into your life. Whether it's at night with processes like that. Whether it is an encounter with a being, a car accident or something else, are only there to shake you up.
Everything is a pretext to tell you: wake up. Get out of this suffering, get out of this illusion.
And this is where it happens, you have nothing to run from and especially not yourself and especially not anyone else. It is no longer time to change anything, except your ability to experience things rather than understand them.
If you accept that, everything can go very, very fast. But do not put a wait because waiting creates a distance. But as it was also said, I believe by Abba and also Bidi and Tête de caboche at the last meeting. Anyway, everything, absolutely everything, can only send you back to your dream come true. Everything is only a pretext; whatever the circumstances, go beyond any causality. Go beyond any need to understand, simply accept and embrace and you will see that right after that there is joy. It can't be any other way. But stop trying to understand, stop trying to explain.
Love cannot be explained, it is lived and I am not talking about human Love, which is a function of certain curves, certain affinities. I am talking about the Love that you are. It is perfect, you're perfect, whatever your age, whatever your suffering. And if you accept, you will find that it couldn't be otherwise. Whatever you say today, whether you agree or not, I don't care. Because you will live it.
Come on, let's keep going.
- Question: OMA, I lived, I recognized who I am, I was everywhere and nowhere at the same time. I even lost the heart of my heart.
That's right.
- Voice: It was a more than sublime moment but consciousness came back to me, attracting me to this body.
But it's normal you're incarnate.
- Voice: Why, why does consciousness persist?
But because, it's been explained. The fusion of being, non-being and person is done in the person and in the consciousness. Of course you're not going to stay in levitation until the end of time. You're not going to stay like some mystics, like Martha Robin feeding you one host a week, that would be stupid today.
You have to live. You didn't fall back, you didn't fall back. The truth is written in you.
After that, as has been said, we must become as humble and simple as possible again. You don't need to be in this state from nowhere and everywhere at once 24/24 hours, without that there is no longer any possibility to live life through your life. So it makes perfect sense, you've experienced it, it's over.
Even if it seems to you to go down into the person and the character, but fortunately you go down into that person and character. You may have children to raise, you may have the responsibility of an elder. You may have a personal job to do in your work, in your daily life. The fusion of being and non-being within the person, the alchemy of the simulacrum and the sacred, it is recorded.
Then don't ask you any more questions. Live your life. And the more you accept to live your life, putting aside this pseudo guilt and or question of "why I came back into the character", but where do you want to go? Except to inhabit this body, while not being this body.
All you have to do is live your life, live life and you will see that the more you live your life and life, the more you accept everything that happens, the more you will find yourself through this character and through the heart of the heart, which is the junction point between the ephemeral, the being and the non-being.
And as you said, in these moments when you are both from everywhere and nowhere, it's unspeakable. Of course even the heart of the heart is lost since you no longer have a body at that moment, you are in that body and yet you are from everywhere, that's the wonder, it's finding who you are. But as long as this body is there, it is there. Even if this world and how it is said in French, I will teach you an expression, I don't know if you know it here: even if this world "goes to pieces" (laughs in the room). Going to a lollipop means going into a spin, going into something that no longer means anything. But you must be present, if you are there, it is because you must be there. In this body in this life, even liberated.
You are not going to put yourself in a cave or make yourself like a hermit or do like Ma Ananda Moyi to stay in ecstasy for years. You are alive, you are human, we are all human.
Just accept that too. You will have moments of fire and you will see that there are brothers and sisters who will burn for weeks at a time. Others who will be consumed in a great blaze, others who will indeed go as you have described, being both everywhere and nowhere. But after that, as long as that body is there, you have the duty and obligation to be fully present, that is how you work at contamination, that is how you spread the good news. Not by words and speeches like I do, but really by being yourself in your life. Simple, humble, transparent, clear with yourself, as clear with any relationship, without question. Everything is done naturally.
But fortunately you are present in life.
Freedom is not fleeing this body or this world, on the contrary, quite the contrary. And by the way, "Tête de caboche" experienced it well last year when he started doing incredible treatments in naked consciousness, or in Elohim's body or any body of light he could borrow. He came to confront himself with Bidi, with Christ himself, because they told him: "But it is useless everything you do, all the diagnoses, all the things you see. You just have to love. So you know "Head Chief " we had to convince him, that he didn't need to see anything, that he didn't need to get out of his body, that he didn't need to. He had already acted on the primary anomaly. The rest no longer needed him, neither visions nor descriptions and that if he accepted, he lived at that time as Christ, that is, the one who touched him, the one who wrote to him is already healed. He doesn't even have to think about it.
How many brothers and sisters testified, simply by writing a request on electronic media or simply thoughts to "Head Chief".
But don't make him a master, it's the particularity that each of you will experience and live. That's the truth. It's not about going to see things, it's about accepting that love is the only cure and that it's today. The only possible effectiveness for each of you inside you, in your relationships, even the most difficult ones, in all the circumstances of your lives.
As I explained years ago: put Love in front, Love behind, Love on the left, Love on the right, Love everywhere and do not worry about the rest.
Abba will say: pronounce Agape, Agape,, Agape, Phahame, Phahame, Phahame. He would say to you, Head Chief put your hands crossed in your chest, to do what it does with your heads there. And I think he told you, it's not going to make him happy that I say that, but he could do the belly dance for you, eh, or even ask him to sing to you to see you, now you're going to die, but to laugh. But really, it's the truth. What matters is not the... The very intention you put in. The important thing is not to go out in this naked consciousness or to try on all God's costumes as he did. Even though it was an exciting step. But it led directly to death. And at that moment, well, "Head Chief" he agreed to die. He didn't care, he had lived the truth. And then he came back into his body, without any more desire to get out of it even if he does it from time to time. But he doesn't need to. He doesn't even have to think about what you're asking him, as soon as he read your name it's done. There is no need for an appointment and that goes for each of you. If you accept it, you will perform the same miracle.
Christ had not said: "What I have done you will do with it and much greater things".
I just told you that all the ships of the entire intergalactic confederation, but those of the bad boys are there, too. We are all there, present in the manifestation very close to the third dimension. This is visible, in the third dimension, but also inside you, since there is no distance, since there is no time.
It is simply the character who, perhaps, sees them in the heavens but who does not yet see them in his heart. That's all!
But it's the same thing since you are the whole of creation.
I told you: "You are at the same time the executioner, the murderer and the saint". You played it all. You have gone through all dimensions, all states and all worlds.
The first memories were, a few years ago, the stellar origins and lines that provided you with a new framework, which in a way did not replace itself, but completed the four pillars of the heart, by the four pillars of the head that merged. And at that moment, the head fused with the heart. This puts an end to the separation between the head and the heart, but also between what has been called "the inside and the outside". But you can't take it.
You can't understand that. You can't explain it. You can only live it...
Any other questions?
- Voice: I want to take this opportunity to say thank you to all those who shared their experiences, to say thank you because it was helpful, enlightening. I have a testimony to give.
Then we listen to you.
- Voice: Recently, it's been about a month, I get up one morning, I've barely put my feet on the floor...
(Laughs)
What's that expression? (Laughs), what did he do with his feet?
(Laughs)
- Voice: He put his feet on the floor, on the ground.
(Laughs)
- Voice: ... and I had in front of me a ball seen in three dimensions, red oxide. It took me about three days to recover from that.... I...
Ah! But I guess so. I believe you! I believe you! But wait two seconds, you can imagine that if it takes you three days to digest to have seen this ball, you can imagine when you really and concretely see the ships in the sky (laughs) humanity will never recover.
(Laughs)
- Voice: The three days are an unspeakable experience of love. And it is often presented [Nibiru] as the destructive planet but it also comes to transform, change the level of consciousness.
Who?
- Voice: It's Nibiru.
Of course, but it doesn't change the level of consciousness. It puts an end to consciousness. It's not quite the same thing.
- Voice: Yes, I understand.
This is the truth, of course, but once again, for those who have the technical means to observe Nibiru, they are many on earth, they notice strangeness. It seems to move forward, backward, it stops, it starts again. It is you, and we with you now, since we are there to create the event, and the visibility of Nibiru.
Everywhere we are the creators of this reality and of course for very logical reasons, all those who run the planet, the rulers, as you say, they have known about it for many years, right?
When I say very many years, it is the eighties of the approach of this body. Not just the approach of the dead stars, the black hole that is now everywhere in the solar system. The event is us and you, incarnate, and us on the other dimensions that are here. This is the place. The earth has been called "a prison planet". But it is in fact the jewel of creation that has become the prison planet, because creation is a prison, because everything that is created can only end with entropy. The extinction. It's a dream. There's no such thing. And it takes a lot of weight off.
Thank you for your testimony.
All those who have been in contact with Nibiru, either by channelling Nibiru, or by simply thinking about it, have been carried away by this unspeakable Love. Of course in the simulacrum version it is the one that brings death, desolation, the tilting of the poles, that will turn the whole solar system upside down--that already turns the whole solar system upside down, but it is more than that, much more than that. It's you and it's us.
Anything else?
Do you want to ask another question?
Let's go !
- Voice: Hello Oma, I know little about you, but the little I have read or heard about you makes me sensitive to your opinion about what I will say now. I have often wondered about the reason for successive reincarnations, for a very long time...
Yes, like many others.
- Voice: And I became convinced that the existence of reincarnations was motivated by the goodness of the creator to allow me to evolve the sense of general harmony...
But I repeat what I said, this is all a dream. There is no space for solution in Karma. The great masters have always proclaimed it. Only the Westerner was stupid enough to believe that he had to pay and be paid for all these past actions.
Karma is not the action of the creator. This is the action of karmic remnants. It is the lords of karma, the karmic lipikas, which are nothing more than a contract that was signed between the archons and the Melchizedeks of the time. Karma is an illusion that concerns the person. You are perfect from all origins, I repeat. Believing you to be imperfect makes you imperfect. Believing that you have to evolve puts you in submission to imperfection. Change your rifle shoulder, do they say that in Canada too?
(Laughs)
- Voice: Yes.
(Laughs)
Perfect! So please change your rifle shoulder and consider yourself perfect. Affirming your imperfection only shows your submission to this stupid and inept law called "action reaction". You are perfect from all eternity. What do you want to have to improve, except to believe that your person will improve. You don't have any exit space in there. It is the perpetuation of the dream of consciousness, of the way of action-reaction, of karma that does not exist.
Karma exists for the person, for confinement. There is no truth in that. Just as there is no truth in any religion, just as there is no truth in any spiritual movement, just as there is no truth in consciousness. So really change your mind. Accept, believe, if you will, that you are already perfect.
So I think that "Head Chief" could talk about it at great length. He has already done so, concerning certain circuits that are present in the brain of every human being or the punishment circuit is always stronger than the reward circuit. You are and we are, constituted like that. Always in guilt. To refer to a creative god, to an external authority. But that's bullshit! You'll never find the truth in there.
How do you want to be free? You are considering a linear perspective, limited to the world, action-reaction, reincarnation. There are enough people who have been working on reincarnation for about thirty years in the United States, in France, who have come to the same conclusion, having practiced regressions: that it is a pipe dream.
There is no Love in there. However, you are Love first and foremost.
What do you hope through this there is no more god than there is devil. All this is you, playing with yourself. You are free from all eternity. You are Love. Everything else passes. All the rest are total illusions that keep you under submission and yoke. How do you want to be autonomous, thinking like that? Even if you do, as you said - the conviction - is still the person.
You see well the difference in discourse or questioning, or witness, between the one who lives the truth who does not speak to you of God, nor of the devil, nor of reincarnation and the one who has not lived the truth. You can't live it that way. In the words you say, you limit yourself. You lock yourself in. Even if I find all your lives and there are some who know them. "Head Chief", he knows all his lives, in the midst of illusion. What good is it to him today? Nothing. And to believe that it is the result of all his lives would be another illusion.
It is precisely when you drop all this, all these beliefs, all these pretexts, all these oriental philosophies, all these spiritual movements, all these religions, these spiritualities, that you are free, not before. You are no longer in times of spirituality or exploration or I don't know what karma.
Time is for freedom. Time is for Love, for Agape, not to have convictions, brother. Not to believe this or that. Whatever your experience, time is for Love. Time is for reward, not punishment. It is still the shortcomings of religions. All of them, without exception.
You are Love and you are autonomous and free. Whatever you think and whatever you affirm within your convictions. But are you happy? Are you in Joy? Are you in the fire of your heart, through these convictions? I'm asking you the question. Yes or no?
Can I answer that?
Of course.
- Voice: First of all, in what I expressed as my convictions, I never wanted to impregnate my response with any guilt or need to repair anything of karma, but I told myself, rightly or wrongly, that each person has a spiritual evolution, recognized as important and felt, as such, by me. Everyone has said that reincarnation exists, so I will stop the first question. I am recording what has been said, it does not mean that I am completely convinced.
- But I have another one: what is the purpose of reincarnations then? That's it, thank you.
I answer you: whatever your convictions, whatever your conclusions, whatever your experiences, do you live the Fires of the Sacred Heart? Do you see naked Joy, do you see Agape? I assure you that it is impossible, as you present your convictions, for the moment. Can you confirm or deny?
- Voice: It is very difficult to answer this question objectively, because the bottom of my heart has always been "concerned" not only about my well-being, but also about that of those around me and even those I do not see. So, if that's what it means to do Agape, I think it's very good and it joins me.
You're not answering my question. I am not talking about well-being, I am not talking about being sure or not being sure, I am simply telling you: do you live Agape, do you live the Fire of the sacred heart? It's simple, it's not to be argued, or discussed. The answer is yes or no?
- Voice: I am not able to answer frankly.
If you are not able to answer this question frankly, I can only refer you to those who testify to it and who live it and who affirm it. Of course, when you are not in the living of that, you can only question yourself. You can't be sure of yourself. Those who live in freedom are more than confident. Not from them, as a person, because there is no one there. But they are living the truth.
Karma doesn't correspond to any truth and I'm not here to argue with you or discuss it. I'm not asking you if you do good, or if you do good around you. I'm just asking you if you're living the truth or not? For the past three hours, I have been saying that those who live the truth cannot be deceived or make mistakes when they live it. Even if it only lasts a billionth of a second.
It ends all karma. It puts an end to all religions, all spiritualities and all consciences. Now, you're free to believe it or not. Of course, as was said by "Head Chief", we are millions, incarnated or not, to live it.
What do you want us to care about karma stories? Stories of well-being, when we talk about Truth. He who lives the Truth does not need to ask himself questions. He saw it.
- Voice: Yes.
Because it's lived. You, you talk to me, without any animosity, about conviction. You don't talk to me about anyone, you talk to me about what doesn't exist--except in your experience, but it's not the truth. But that's your experience, it's respectable. It's a dream and as was said by "Head Chief", by Abba, I let you dream.
- Voice: Anyway, thank you. But I would just like to say one final word: karma has never been something that preoccupied me but in my opinion it has nothing to do with this answer and the second thing is that maybe I can say anyway that at some point in my existence, I am not really sure I understand Love as it is described here...
You can't understand that. I explained that for hours. Abba said it for hundreds of hours. Beliefs and understanding have nothing to do with experience. It's as simple as that, as soon as you live, as soon as you're everywhere and nowhere, at once. No more stories of karma, religions, spiritualities and consciences. But you can't apprehend it, whatever your convictions, whatever you observe as a result on this world, on your environment.
As you express it, it is not the truth, it is your truth and it is relative. It will never free you and you will have to live it because it is the end of creation, the end of the dream. You will live Agape like everyone else and you will laugh at yourself. Even if you can't laugh about it today, I'm not here to discuss, to argue, or to demonstrate anything. You talk about your experience with karma and many here, who have followed some of the teachings, could talk about it in the same way. But they have lived through the fact that none of this is true. It's a lockdown. It's something that can't be the truth.
The truth is Love. It does not depend on any conviction, any positioning of consciousness, any experience and any state. If you want to be free and live the truth you are, you can't hold on to that kind of belief. It belongs to the old world, it belongs to spirituality, religions, philosophies. And today you have scientists, who have never had any spiritual research at all. Who live the absolute. They had their brains eaten by bacteria, they're neuroscientists. They testified to that. They had strokes. They have been everywhere and nowhere.
Conviction freezes you in your experience, which is respectable, commendable, it is your truth. But it's a dream. You can't get out of the dream that way. That's why the initial moment is nothing more than the final moment. It couldn't have been any other way.
Do you have the reminiscence of your past lives? Were you in 1592? No, you can't answer that. So what do you know about karma? What have you experienced in karmic if not what you have read, what you have believed and what you have seen at work, in your universe, in your creation, in your environment? Karma is false and moreover, it does not work at all as you have described it in the West.
You always choose someone as a father or mother who killed you in a past life to allow them to repair their karma and yet you were the victim. There's no such thing. Karma was created by Yaldebaolt, by the laws of confinement, by the curvature of space-time, by cycles, by oblivion.
Who remembers what he was between lives? Who remembers what he was before he was born? You cannot remember as long as you remain in this kind of conviction and experience. Freedom does not depend on any karma, freedom does not depend on anything. It's your natural state. You are in a perspective that I would describe as linear, that is, in what you are experiencing, in what you have experienced that is respectable and commendable at no time, you have not left time and space. Without it, you couldn't talk about it that way.
So you are only exposing your testimony, your convictions, which are only adhesions to beliefs-- and which, at no time, can represent the experience of the Truth.
And I am formal, without any discussion and without any contradiction. I can only tell you: my brother, get rid of all this. Forget all about it! You are pure Love. You are perfect, not in your character but in what you ARE before you were and that you simply forgot. And you put layers back on top of it, as we all did when we were incarnate, through esotericism even through the teachings I gave in my lifetime, but there was no other possibility because it was not liveable, no one could live it.
Today, millions of you are living it. What do you want to build with your karma story? When you find yourself more and more isolated, in relation to the experience of the multitude, who will only speak to you of Love, of the present moment, of being both everything and nothing. What place is there in it for convictions or karma, when you live the exact opposite of your convictions? What do you do in these cases?
Do not confuse what is of the order of convictions with what is of the order of experience. That was the first question I asked you, and you couldn't answer in the affirmative. Of course, once again, this is neither a reproach nor an indictment, but on the contrary an opportunity to say to yourself: but wake up, my brother! What are you doing? What do you expect? What are you waiting for?
Ask yourself this question inside yourself, not through karmic or psychological philosophies or whatever you want. Have you made the journey inside your heart, to zero time, to the heart of the heart? None of this can hold up when you live it. Don't you see these are just real scams, limitations. You are perfect from all times, from all origins, despite the imperfection of this world.
You can't understand it, but you're already trying to accept to go and check for yourself, if it's valid or not. But you can't, as I said at the time, "have your ass between two chairs". That's it, that's it! It's one or the other and anyway, maybe this one too, maybe you know her? "All roads lead to Rome".
In this case, here, they lead to the light, because Rome is not really a destination of light, is it? We're not going back to the Vatican (laughs). Of course, it is the religious, but once again do not be a slave to your convictions, be available for the moment, everything is there! Everything else just keeps you away from it without exception. It doesn't question your kindness, it doesn't question the integrity or straightness of your life, but who cares about that! It's about the illusion, there's no one there! If there is no one how there can be karma, you are all the others what we really live, how can you imagine a karma of anything thinking a little bit, beyond beliefs.
Conviction is useful to move forward in this life but not for the truth certainly not as- you felt the energies the vibrations the crowns the chakras, the Marian channel, the wave of life, can you answer this question?
- Voice: I don't know the meaning of all these terms.
It's not a meaning, it's an living experience.
- Voice: I cannot say yes or no.
If you cannot say "yes or no" it means "no" because he who has lived the fire in his feet, the fire in his sacrum, the fire in his heart, the crown of his head, the ascensional crown, the Marian channel, he knows it. It's not a meaning, it's an lived experience. It is a lived experience when you feel this column of light on your left, when you feel this fire rising from your feet, it is a lived experience! It's not a meaning. Do not confuse meaning or meaning with lived experience. That's not the case either! Do not confuse convictions or philosophies with lived experience.
I'm not talking about the person's experience, I just talked to you about energy and vibration. Have you lived what it is like to be, there, in the heart, to feel this unspeakable Love that is there?
- Voice: Yes, it has happened to me before.
Yes, and you still maintained your karma story? You know, I had discussions for years with a very famous brother who was a karma enthusiast. It lasted for years and he is finally released.
There is nothing more confining than karma because it necessarily puts you in a need to evolve, but you are perfect. Not your body, not your life, but what you really are.
I'm not trying to convince you, and I have no way of convincing you.
- Voice: What is the purpose of reincarnations?
But nothing at all, since it's an illusion!
- Voice: I didn't know that...
There is no reincarnation, reincarnation concerns the person and the soul. And yet, it is in all the teachings. You are told that you are incarnate: body - spirit and that the spirit is perfect, so why stop at the soul?
Why stop at causality? This unspeakable Love, of which we speak, when it is really lived, it leaves nothing to remain of the idea of being a person, of having to evolve or of having karma, come on!
That's impossible.
- Voice: I'm not sure of anything.
We are sure of what we are living in in totality and this leads to total humility. We are not sure of anything, in this world and rightly so. We are sure of what we are living and what we are. We cannot be deceived and we cannot be wrong. I speak for myself, the Ancients, with what we have lived through over the past year and what you are living here on earth by the millions.
You're free to accept or not. I do not defend a point of view or any conviction but simply what is lived and a natural state. But once again, I urge you to listen to hundreds of channelings where we had the same brother, for ten years who was frozen on a karma, until the moment when he lived the truth and farewell karma, farewell illusions.
That is a certainty. There is no uncertainty in Love, there is no choice in Love and it has often been said by "Head Chief" and to use his expression: as long as you believe you have the choice, you are not free. Love is not a choice. He is the evidence of the truth but, that, the mind, he cannot accept it and a lack of conviction, either. And that's normal. I can't prove it to you, we're just standing here in words.
Love is never an argument or a discussion. It is a state of being and non-being that appears in your eyes, in all the gestures and in all the attentions of what life gives you to live. There's no room for karma in there. There is no room for any evolution. There is only room for truth, for lightness, for Love. For this unspeakable Love that we have called Agape. Naked Love.
t for all those who live it, we see in the countless testimonies that as soon as it is lived, they are liberated. They are autonomous from all religious and spiritual systems, as well as free from this world. And yet, they are there in this world but they can never again be fooled by this game of the person, this game of the mind, this game of evolution.
Everything you describe is going on in your head, in your designs. Even if, as you said: there are results around you, the Love we are talking about, the Love we are living has nothing to do with it, absolutely nothing. But again, I can only send you back to finish what I exchanged with this brother for ten years. We're not going to do it again. If you want, I'll put you in touch with him. Ask "Head Chief". You will certainly have things to talk about. But he was also a man of conviction. He had a perfect life, structured, straightforward, honest. He was never free with that. Today, he laughs all the time.
Again, I'm not trying to convince you. And don't believe me. It can only be lived. It cannot be discussed, nor can it be argued because the argumentation and discussion will always remain at the level of the mind and people. This Love says "impersonal" or "unconditional", even if I don't like that word too much, is lived. It's real.
Your karma is a direct result of being locked in this dimension and in a body. Did you get out of that body? Have you gone through the dimensions? Yes or no? It's very simple! It's going to be all "mixed up" too!
(Laughs)
- Voices: We have reached the time allotted.
So maybe it's time to stop on that word.
I convey to you all my Love, of course, all my blessings and I think that "Head Chief" and other people will take care of your case.
(Laughs)
As for me, I might have the chance to come back. We'll see about that. If I am given the opportunity. In any case, I say to you always, in the heart.
I am here with you and in you, and I am you. And nothing else.
See you soon.
- The assembly in the room: Thank you Oma.
Applause.
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June 2019 interviews (Quebec)
Published by : Apotheosis apotheosis.live
Through Jean Luc Ayoun
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