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INTERVIEWS (QUEBEC) JUNE 2019.
So, welcome to this satsang. We are listening to you. Who wants to start the debates?
Come on, you're up. So either way, you go with the microphone to him, now I already have two microphones on me.
- Brother: I would like to know if, when you channel, after the channelling, do you remember what was said, Bidi or...
So I'll take the history, if you like, because as I said to some of you, what you call channelings, I started channeling, and my first works came out in 1987, at that time, the word channeling didn't exist. We were talking about a message. So of course I was already receiving countless messages, that's how it went.
Then there was the period before the Autres Dimensions, just before, the year before, especially when Omraam arrived, when there, I couldn't remember anything, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. So I had to listen again or be told what had been said. And whether it was for OMA, or after Anaël, except that the problem is that Anaël even talked to me outside the channelings, but in the real channelings, at first, I didn't remember.
I was in another state and I didn't remember anything.
Today, at the moment, most of the time, I totally remember what is said. I am totally present, and absent at the same time. As I explained, I keep myself at the limit of being and non-being, for me that's no problem.
So, of course, when I am at the junction of being and non-being, especially for the last channelings, which are not channelings, I cannot even say what it is, for I Am You, even OMA had asked me to lie down, to put the body at rest, and to simply maintain myself at the junction of being and non-being, as I can do, but there with the body totally motionless and without any perception of the body. So it's longer, but what came out, the sentences that were pronounced, it's not an entity that pronounced them, it's not Abba, it's not Jean-Luc, I don't know what it is. It is the intelligence of light directly.
So, we have another example like that, of what we called Eynolwaden. Eynolwaden is pure joy, she said not to define it in a form. It was the same for the Sun Spirit, there is no entity, you see. So it is an access to zero time, e in this zero time that is at the junction of being and non-being, at the heart of the heart, if you will, there I remember everything.
For I Am You, no, because there I was really at the extreme limit of the extinction of consciousness, and I had almost no memory of what was said. But whether it's Bidi now, OMA or anyone else, I'm totally aware of what's being said.
So there was a learning process that lasted a very, very long time, since I tell you that the first texts I received in messages, even before I verbalized them, could be in automatic writing, it goes back a long, long time, and there was a whole acclimatization process that took place. This acclimatization was not only energetic or vibratory, since it took, for example, at the beginning when OMA arrived...
He said to me, "You can't smoke anymore… I said, "What do you mean, I can't smoke anymore". He said to me, "You can't eat bread anymore"... "What do you mean, I can't eat bread anymore". He said to me, "You can't drink coffee anymore".... What do you mean, I can't drink coffee anymore?
... and indeed, I could no longer.
So, there was a whole period of time, to quit smoking too, and I was a heavy smoker when I was a medicine doctor, all this there was a vibratory, energetic, physiological preparation, which lasted for years, I would say almost all the time of AD, and when Bidi started arriving in March 2012, I realized that things were greatly transformed with the wave of life, and from that moment on, except for I Am You or possibly once or twice the Sun Spirit, I was perfectly lucid and conscious, in a kind of bi-localization of consciousness, that is, I was both here, and sometimes I was in the Melchizedek ship, with an extremely clear memory of what was happening, you know.
So today, yes, there is a total lucidity of what is said, I hear everything that is said, I am at the heart of the heart, but present in my character, whereas at that time, it was not possible to make the connection between the character, the being who was already lived, and the non-being who did not yet exist.
So it was a whole alchemical, physiological, energetic, vibratory, and consciousness progression that made it possible. Knowing that I don't really have much merit, that's why I'm telling you, I'm making a human being all that's simplest, since the real mediumic gift has been transmitted in a hereditary way, in my family, on my mother's side.
But I would also like to stress one point, which some people know and others do not, so I think that in Quebec you know this very well, since Bernard de Montréal spoke at length about it, all that we call the astral spiritual, which are forces of confinement, as he told you at the time, the French, they are not aware.
So a lot of people follow channels, believing that it comes from the light. That's not true, that's not true. And besides, we clearly distinguish what we call the small sky, in Sumerian, i. e. the astral and the great sky or the Great Angal which is directly related to the information of zero time, and to no astral.
Having been a medium very young, I very quickly had, through what I practiced, independently of medicine, since I had a psychic practice, even before I was a doctor, and when I did psychic work, I went out, I had a terrible stomach ache, and I know perfectly well the difference between what is astral, whether it is at the level of perception, visual level and consciousness.
But unfortunately, 99% of the channels are in the astral. Of course, you can't get it admitted when you don't have the intellectual understanding of the difference between what is astralized and what is of the order of intelligence, I'm not even talking about the supra-mental, but the intelligence of light, well you get screwed every time.
So when you have the mediumnic ability to see, well, it's very simple, visually, when you're in the astral, for example someone who does an NDE, he doesn't go beyond the astral. What will he see, he will see the family, beings of light, but what does he see? He sees characters who are holograms with a light on the outside, which is an emanated light, the representation of the halo of saints, for example.
However, this is not true, what comes from the great Angal, the light is never outside, it is inside the form, it is the great difference. In the great Angal, everything is inner. In the small sky, that is to say, all the astralized forces, in Bernard de Montréal's speech, and well, there, the light is external, it is an emanated, projected and falsified light. This is what has been called oblique light, deviated light, which is expressed by the planet with the inclination of the planets, which do not receive light directly.
However, most mediums are trapped by the astral. So I'm not going to go back over the story, you know, there were several friends who were part of the One collective and who were trapped too. You are trapped, you know when, regardless of the visual aspect, when you have the visual aspect and the vibratory aspect, it is very difficult to be trapped.
You know, there are a lot of mediums or channels that have tried to meet me, they say "here I am channeling this thing". Like that, I tell him, what do you smell? And then he looks at me with an astonished look on his face, they don't feel anything.
So I told you, before it was manifested from my heart, where everything is, of course, there, the brothers and sisters who have been attending the channelings since 2008, 2007, clearly saw a form of light inside herself that was coming down from the left side. This is really characteristic of what is called the Great Heaven, whether you are left-handed or right-handed, a disembodied person, for example, he will manifest himself from the right at the top. The forces of darkness, the Luciferic forces, they manifest themselves from behind and they penetrate directly through the point, called the point of enchantment, which is the OD point, which is used in different forms of black magic.
But these people who do not see, do not have the perception of the arrival of the entity. Now, I no longer have any problem with the entities, they always arrived on the left, and I was very vigilant about that, and besides, people saw it, even without being psychic, when the archangel Anael came down or when OMA arrived, my face disappeared, there was OMA's face instead, they had their eyes wide open, it was the truth.
Now the disembodied are not harmful, but there is an essential difference
The oblique light lies to you. She talks to you about evolution, she talks to you about improvement, she talks to you about the laws of the soul, she will talk to you about everything astral, but she will never tell you the truth. There is only one truth, but to be able to express it, you have to have lived it, it is zero time, that is to say all that, it's all bullshit, all this world, does not exist.
But until you have lived it, look, for example, if you take the teaching of Advaita Vedanta, Advaita Vedanta speaks of non-duality, you read books on Advaita Vedanta, even the oldest ones, and you can make books on Advaita Vedanta. But that's not why you live it, and it's clearly visible, like the nose in the middle of your face, someone who lives non-duality; doesn't have the same speech as the one who read about the Advaita Vedanta.
And in terms of the difference between what is astralized and what is of the order of Intelligence with a big I, there are fundamental differences: 1. of perception 2. of vision, if you have them, and especially of result, already for the person who channels, you have some channels that have been very well known in Canada, when you see what was happening when they channel, it was scary, they twisted in all directions, they had tension outbursts, they were exhausted afterwards.
I had the chance to work with Père Brune, you may have heard of him, who worked on trans-communication with the disincarnated, I, when I had patients who would die, they came to see me, they came to me, they arrived on the right, not on the left, they were not beings of light, but what they told me was true.
Come on, I'm going to tell you a very beautiful story about it, you'll see, yet it was astral, it wasn't vibrational.
A couple of people I was treating, very old people, the gentleman one day had a mediastinum tumor, he was taken away in six months, and his wife came to see me in the office, because they had known each other since they were children, and she had lost her husband, so she was crying, she was crying, she was crying and I put her in a room before doing my crystal session, because I was healing with the crystals, I went to my apartment to my kitchen, and there I see this shape, with the outside light, I see its lit shape, an outside, astral light, it had just died, which passed through me, and told me: you will tell her that she doesn't forget the three pennies, the three coins, the three pennies.
Well, I hear that, I go into the room where his wife was, who was crying, to place the stones on him, and I tell him: does that ring a bell? She looks at me crying, she says no. And then he comes back, and I see it, I feel it, he enters the inside by the right and he says to me: tell him that's when we were young. So I didn't know how to say it, I didn't know if it was true, I was very careful, I told him: but when you were young, three cents doesn't mean anything to you?
She said to me: ah, but yes, he always said to me: "I love you like a penny".
(Exclamation in the room)
So I have thousands of stories like that, you see, that was astral.
But the great difference, regardless of the oblique light that is astralized and sends you into the chimeras of evolution, will talk to you about karma, will talk to you about evolution, no, we are perfect from all origins.
How do you want to find the truth, if from the beginning you think you have to fix something, that you have to think about improving something. No. Consider yourself perfect in the midst of the unknown you do not know and you will live it.
On the other hand, the big difference, and the same for some channels in all the countries of the world that feel exhausted and empty after a channeling, I told you, I can channel ten hours, and I will feel all the better. Bidi came yesterday, my feet don't hurt anymore, I'm on fire, really. That's the big difference and all the people who worked with Père Brune on the astral, on the disembodied, well they were exsanguinated, it was a whole team, they came to the office every month, they were empty. But there was a notion of service anyway, it was given news from the disembodied, it's not negative.
On the other hand, when you are with a channel that is going to be astralized and that is not related to the intelligence of light, it translates into a certain number of imperatives, that's what I told the channels, who came to see me, when I told them but what do you feel before you channel? They opened their eyes, they didn't understand.
Yes, well, you can't channel 1. if you haven't opened the crowns, 2. if the Marian channel isn't permeable, the so-called Antakarana, then obviously all the entities will play you, and the difference is that you will be exhausted, you see.
When I channel, I am never, never, never exhausted, quite the contrary, it brings me vitality, it brings me Love, it brings me joy, and it is so obvious. And all these channels that came to meet me, that told me they didn't feel anything when they were channelling, I say, it's bullshit, it's impossible.
When a whitelighter arrives, you can only feel it. And I wasn't the only one who felt it. At the very beginning, when Anaël came, there were public channelings, there were three hundred, five hundred of us, there were people who passed out, so strong was it, we saw the light everywhere, really, you know.
It is the whole difference between the so-called energetic plane and the vibrational plane or, if you prefer, the ordinary consciousness which is astralized, which is subject to spiritual laws, but the spiritual laws they were decreed by whom? By the archetypes, which have been diverted, that's why last year we broke all the archetypes and the truth is liveable now. Because there is no reflection, there is no shimmer, there is no possibility of diverting light.
But of course, there are so many brothers and sisters who are still astralized, that is, they are so much in form, in vision, but they cannot experience the fire of their hearts, it is impossible. But the one, as I said, who lives the fire of the heart or who simply lives the rhythm at three times of the heart, and the joy that comes, even for a minute, he knows that it is true, he doesn't need to ask himself questions, you know.
But there are extremely important differences, between a channeling of what is called the Great Heaven and what is the small heaven. The little heaven, if you feel the energies, it happens from the right, if it is dark forces they happen from the back, if it is entities of the lower astral, they will manifest themselves to you by grabbing your left thigh, while a being of light, it descends through the Marian channel to the left.
Now it has merged with my heart, they emanate directly from my heart, because I realized that everything was in me. When I say that I have realized it, it is not a concept, it is an experience that the whole creation is in me, and as Nisargadatta said, the only difference between you and me is that I know that I am everything, you don't know it yet. But to be everything, as I said, you have to be nothing.
And you know very well that the trap we are, at last, confronted with as soon as we get into these subtle areas, we will say, is pride. That is why so much emphasis has been placed on humility, on simplicity, and you are embarked on these astralized forces as soon as you create a movement, as soon as you create an association, as soon as you create a grouping on this material level, you deprive others of their freedom.
Because necessarily, look at OMA, OMA and his Universal White Brotherhood, he was fed up with having all these beings around him who worshipped him. But when you worship someone, you're not free for yourself, it's impossible, you see.
And above all, as I said and insisted in the preamble, those who know my life, I have a very simple life, I am in my vegetable garden, I am sunbathing on my terrace, well, I have care to do and people who ask me questions, I answer them, but I do not do anything else, I do not claim anything, and especially not, that is what I keep saying, you cannot follow me, you can only be yourself.
If you feel like you're following me, you can't be free. That's essential, that's essential. Autonomy and freedom flow directly from the four pillars of the heart: humility, simplicity, transparency and I don't know what. No matter how much you lived through the vibratory states, that is, the extensions of consciousness, and God knows, for example, when Bidi arrived in 2012, you must have lived the same thing here in Canada, when Bidi arrived, all those who were astralized and who were in fear, they disappeared, they ran away, they came back six, seven years later.
Even friends, very, very close brothers, even people with whom we lived, it took them seven years to take it, and now they know it's the truth.
But I no longer seek to federate, moreover in 2012, before there were problems that were very useful, moreover, to allow me to withdraw from the society that was called other dimensions, and therefore to regain my autonomy, my freedom too, it was fundamental, so I did not experience it as a punishment, on the contrary.
On the contrary, it was a moment of interiorization, a moment of understanding, where I was available to understand the last elements that I had not yet seen, and then now, with zero time, with this naked joy, with this naked Love, with this Agape, it has become even simpler, it is so obvious. The problem always comes from the man, from his beliefs, but that was broken by AD, but also by habits, and last year when I started as Abba to talk about habits, there were also brothers and sisters who saved themselves, and you tell them: but there is no point in imposing eating at this time, sleeping at this time, be free.
So well here, of course when we are in a group, here, we are obliged to have schedules, but when I am at home, sometimes we don't even think about eating, we will eat at three in the morning, or if I am hungry, I would eat in the morning, I really let life live me, even if in good ram, I sometimes react like any normal human being to circumstances, but it is never something that will train me elsewhere than in this alignment with zero time.
And yet God knows there are circumstances in everyone's life, not just mine, that are there to destabilize you, but that's precisely what you see if you hold on, or if you don't hold on. Knowing that the last trap, the worst of all, is spiritual pride, that is, as soon as you live, even openings to the great sky, but you want to bring it back to yourself, and especially if you have, in quotation marks, a load of souls, because you say, even on Facebook, even in virtual, but as soon as you feel important, it is called pride.
And then it's over, and fortunately, fortunately, it's the only way for each brother and sister to discover the truth in themselves. So the mistake is not a mistake, I don't condemn that, speaking of the difference between the small sky and the big sky, I'm just saying that it's part of the game of experience, which brings you precisely to zero time. Nothing happens by chance.
So it's very difficult to handle, but it can be summed up in one sentence. As long as you judge that what happens to you does not come from you, but comes from the outside, whether in a relationship, there is no executioner, there is no victim, there is no assassin, all this is just us playing the game of consciousness, in order to find the source of consciousness, and to discover that we are anterior to consciousness.
Now, my personal conscience, it is there, as I said, it will remain there until the last moment. Simply the alchemy between the character, the person, the history, the being and the non-being, is today perfectly aligned since last year, i. e. the moment in May when all the images of the archetypes were broken in Van Allen's belt.
That's when I realized that even Mary, even the most prestigious ones, were, not them, but what we did with them was a total deviance, because it deprived you of your freedom. As soon as there is an intermediary between you, what you are, that is, the Light, even if you have forgotten it, and the Intelligence of the Light, you are embarked by the visions, you are embarked even by the vibrations.
We still have so many brothers and sisters today, who have lived the stars, who have followed AD, and who do not want to give up. To them, I am the devil himself. Well, yes, I'm the one who keeps you from going in circles, you see. But as long as you have not experienced, precisely the little heaven and the big heaven, that is why there is no judgment in what I say, nor any condemnation, on the contrary, everything that will happen to you, must happen for your own good, but not the good of the person, to live the truth.
And everything is only a pretext since the end of the primary anomaly, to discover, really, who you are, outside your being and outside your character. And there, of course, as I said, and as you experience it more and more extensively and broadly, as soon as you live the truth, you cannot be deceived or mistaken.
Because it is inscribed, time zero is inscribed in the cells, is inscribed in the consciousness, without it there would have been no way to remember, there would have been no way to rewind the film, and the dream would have continued forever.
Gaétan, we have another question, can you come a little bit since it's not long enough?
Ah, it's gone, but it doesn't matter, since it's recorded there. It's okay.
Wait until you get to the microphone, because everyone has to hear you. There you go. There you go.
- Sister: What do you mean by the great sky?
The great sky? It is the one where there is no form, it is what is anterior, it is what is called in Kabbalah the Ain Soph Aur, what is beyond the light...
-... does that match the conscience?
-... it matches, it matches what?
-... does that match the conscience?
Yes, that's it, that's what, as Bidi said again in 2012, is the unknown, but the unknown today is lived.
-... And what are we looking at in the higher astral...?
No, there's nothing there.
-... still lives in the higher astral?
No, there's nothing there.
No, there's nothing... it's in communication with the big sky much more?
Well, I'm the big sky, since I'm the whole and I'm nothing. That's the last identification. But to achieve this last identification and this experience, it is obviously necessary that the four pillars of the heart have been respected, that is to say that your humility, your simplicity, must be evident, not when you are in representation, as I speak here, but in your simplest life, without this you do not make the connection, you are still in the dream.
-... How do you explain the feeling of being in the great sky, the feeling of being in the whole?
I can't explain it, you have to live it, because even if I tell you, I'm the whole and nothing, you're going to make it a concept, but it's not even to define it, it's not even to explain it, it's to allow everyone to live it, because it's only by living it that you recognize yourself.
As long as you do not recognize yourself in this truth that was named Absolute by Anael, so the consciousness, the Parabrahman, Shantinilaya, you call it as you wish, it is words, but as long as, it is the only place, this great heaven, where you can recognize yourself before any form and to any world.
The consequences on the person's life, well, everything changes. Those who knew me see me today, seven years later, I am completely different, obviously, it has an effect on matter, it has an effect on vital energy, it has an effect on DNA, it has an effect on behaviour, it has an effect on consciousness,...
-... Yes, but everyone when they go through consciousness, can it be different for everyone?
Yes, all those who maintain the dream, all those who maintain the illusion, all those who are hooked by their conscience, they will live the stripping, they will live a kind of death with a terror, but there too, it is not a punishment, on the contrary, it is a reward, is to see that, beyond this terror that they will experience to live the extinction of consciousness, where they are still convinced that behind it is nothingness, and that nothingness is the devil, well yes, it just proves when they say that, that they have not lived it.
Yes.
Then in another time, it's going to be the whole thing?
It's all at the same time. It is the junction of the whole and the nothing, what I explained, the junction of time and space with zero time, which makes you discover that you are space, which makes you discover that you are not this body, and especially where you recognize yourself. When I talk about recognition, no human being can escape this recognition. It is inscribed in consciousness, it is inscribed in this carbonaceous body, it is inscribed in cells, it is inscribed in energy and it is inscribed in the vibral.
But until last year, no one could live it, and I repeat, only Nisargadatta lived it.
-... All and nothing at the same time, gives us zero time....
Yes, yes, yes, yes. But to do that, you have to give up everything. So when I say drop everything, don't misunderstand, because people understand that you have to stop, give your money, go to a cave, not at all. To let go means to let go of all spiritual claims, since everything that is spirituality as Nisargadatta said is a total scam, Bernard of Montreal said it is astralized, yes, spiritual laws are only a constraint imposed by other beings, whom we have called the brightest, to maintain the form.
Even Christ, two thousand years ago, who brought the Christ matrix, therefore the possibility of zero time and awakening, said: "I and my Father are One", but he never said that he was the Father. So he still had a distance to go.
-... Nowadays Christ still exists at the level of the sun?
How? How?
-... Does Christ, the manifestation of Christ... by the sun?
No, it is everywhere here, what is called the Christic matrix is the intelligence of light, and the Internet has been used to spread the message. That's where it was very interesting, because Omraam when he arrived in 2008, he told us: Everything we're going to tell you, you have to publish it on the Internet.
So already at the time, Véronique said, but we're going to get caught right away..., he said: no, no, it has to go on the Internet.
-... When we talk about the signs of the Sun?
Yes, it's a variant, we'll say, of the Christic spirit, quite simply. It was the preparation for the installation of the zero time of the Christ matrix, which is simply Intelligence with a great i, or the intelligence of light if you will, which is accessible to everyone on this earth today.
-... That is to say, the Christic matrix...
It has replaced the binary matrix, yes.
-... Is this the manifestation of Christ?
Yes, of course, the return of Christ, that's it. If you believe that there is a character who will return on a chariot of fire, or who will return in a body of flesh, there you are deceived by spiritual illusion. There will never be a return of Christ in the midst of a character. All those who claim to be Christ will be swept away, it is not possible.
-... When you say that when you destroyed Van Allen's belt, with the letters of fire from ABBA, it speaks to me, but only how it came about with the letters of fire... it was the verb or liberation...
No, you had to understand first, because when I was travelling in naked consciousness and I came to this Van Allen belt, I didn't understand anything.
It's like in 2009-2010 when I was travelling under the wings of Michaël who took me in all dimensions, I was completely lost, I didn't understand anything, I didn't even know if I was in a body, I knew that I was under a bird but gigantic and that every time we changed dimension, I had a jolt in I don't know what, since I can't talk about bodies, and that we changed atmosphere, environment, but at the time, I was unable to locate myself, I didn't understand anything.
I lived it, but I had no way of making it intelligible, so I had no way of translating it here. On the other hand, last year was different, that is, as soon as we started travelling and approached this belt of Van Allen and I saw all these archetypes, Christ, Mary, Buddha, all the saints of all traditions, all religions, with this light that reflected infinitely like games of mirrors to infinity, I started scratching my head and saying to myself...
So, well, at that time I was borrowing, for myself, what I call costumes. So I borrowed a suit from Elohim, I borrowed the suit of Altair's white eagle, I borrowed the body of the white light whale, and then every time I arrived in front of Van Allen's belt, it would send the image back to me forever, as if I couldn't cross.
And then at that moment, Abba, I had the idea of putting A B B B with the B upside down and the A in letters of fire, and when I arrived in front of one of Van Allen's mirrors, everything exploded, everything is consumed. This made a crown of fire, and at that moment the primary anomaly disappeared.
And I was able to see it on all human bodies, because when I talk about primary anomaly, I don't want to talk about it for too long, it would take us too far, as I told you, there were the energies of the soul, the astralized energies, which had to go back to the spirit as it is taught in all the so-called spiritual currents, could not work.
Because the energy of the soul was reflected back to matter, and this is what Ma Ananda Moyi had already expressed in 2010, in relation to the reversal of the soul, and even the teachings you have, astralized, for example in Alice Bailey's teaching, Well, that I know of course, we talk to you about the soul, we talk to you about the rays, we talk to you about the evolution of the soul, and they tell you themselves that liberation is the consummation of the soul, but you can't consume something by analyzing it.
You consume it only by surpassing it, which is a purely vibratory aspect of consciousness, and this was not possible before, and when I went on the bodies, since at that moment I was going out in naked consciousness or with a suit of light, I could see everything in the bodies, and then I could see this derivation on this dark thing that started from the liver and went up to the soul, and instead of being eliminated or evacuated to the spirit, went down into the liver, so it was looped in a perpetual way.
-... And Abba saw him in the... that's Beth...
The home.
- ... It's home, it's a real return home.
Absolutely.
- ... And when you say that the sun is no longer the same light...
Of course.
- ... There are simulacrums, lights there, that have been put on by humans...
Yes, these are the humans.
- ... Did you check in naked conscience if it was really true that there were lights there?
I don't care, I don't care.
- ... No, because it's hard to imagine that...
Yes, but it's no use. So wait, let's take it another way. What's the point of knowing that? Nothing to live the truth, since everything is wrong. We must stop now to be interested, well the geological events, what is happening on Gaïa, yes it is important, but stop thinking, stop knowing if it is the real sun or a Sun simulator, it will not make you advance one iota, that, it feeds the head.
- ... Yes, we understand that, but there are still.... that comes back from time to time...
But that won't make you move one iota, so everything that feeds the mind today is superfluous. Get to the point, at zero time, you don't need anything.
However, of course I answer the questions if it allows us to get closer to zero time. But talking about sun simulator or sun simulator today, is absolutely useless. On the contrary, it will divert your attention from the truth, you are being agitated by the, by the... it's the theatre of puppets.
We tell you to look over there, especially since you don't see the truth. It is simply the allegory of Plato's cave. So another question.
- Sister: Our DNA, we have reptilian...
Well, we already have a reptilian brain.
- Sister: Yes, that's right. But the importance of Christic DNA, to bring us...
It is not the Christic DNA, it is the restitution of the integral DNA which has twelve strands. Look, for example, at what has been called the third eye, it is the worst of falsification and is revered by so many people.
Actually, the third eye is the twelve stars. Now what has happened, already for many years, to the twelve stars that are located, as I told you, on nuclei or brain functions at the neocortex level, which have been called with the names given by the elders and by the stars themselves? correspond to neuroscientific data, and at the moment when you live the truth, the twelve stars, which are located around the head, gather at the front of the head, between clarity and precision, and there you have what one could call the right vision.
But the right vision is not a mediumistic vision, nor an astral vision, nor a vision linked to the great sky, it is that, whatever you look at, you only see the truth, even within the illusion. It is what I was expressing, what is happening in my heart, it is not me who decides, there is the same quality of emanation and love, when I look at an enemy, when I listen to a friend, when I look at a flower, or when I look at chaos, it doesn't change anything.
It is the permanence of this state that signs that you are in joy.
... (Unintelligible)
Yes, but DNA is nothing, DNA belongs to the form and manifestation, even if it has twelve strands, you are anterior to the form, you are anterior to DNA, you are anterior to the first manifestation of light and you are anterior to the Source.
That's zero time, and when you live zero time, you can never be fooled by your own head, which you need to drive your car, write checks, you can never be fooled by visions, and God knows last year, by borrowing all the costumes, I even borrowed Thor's costume, from the different gods to see what it was like, but I considered it as a fun.
On the other hand, those who accompanied me and saw themselves as Kalkin or as I don't know what, they remained trapped by pride, "it's me"! I've never been fooled by this, never, never, never, never, never. Because there is my whole journey since the time I was, when I was doing the tarot cards as a medium, and then all my knowledge of energy, it still helped me, and even the preparation you had, that is, all the definitions here in Quebec of Bernard de Montréal, prepared these moments that we are living.
Just as Christ and Nisargadatta prepared these moments. But when I say that I am Abba, I immediately specify that you are all Abba, otherwise it would not be true, I would still be in a form of pride, to say: look, I am Abba and you are nothing.
No, as I say, you can't follow me, you can only find yourself. And if you have the impression of following, that's why AD also stopped, Brother K had warned us, we had to federate beings, but then we had to break the spiritual organizations, because as soon as you want to organize spirituality, you fall into the trap of archetypes, we see it today with religions, we see it with all the spiritual movements.
True autonomy and true freedom can only be found alone, that is, in silence, and certainly not in external references, even if these external references have been extremely useful. Fortunately, they were there, because they made us live a story that led us to the end of the story, while all the others kept the story alive.
Fortunately, there were milestones, these milestones you know them, even these great beings called the Melchizedeks, they too, as I said, they had to repair movements, to create the Universal White Brotherhood, and for Osho, well, it's even worse. The only one who, in part, escaped this is Brother K, because Brother K when he saw, he dissolved the Order of the Star, in the letter of the dissolution of the Order of the Star, he saw that he had been trapped.
But not everyone has the discernment of a Krishnamurti, and yet how many people followed Krishnamurti or read Krishnamurti, ah it was exciting, but did it free you for all that, no, it was impossible, it was not the time.
And I have been saying it since last year, we are at the right time, for the resolution of the myth of creation, and it is happening on earth. I was just an agent who agreed to sacrifice myself long ago, to let it go. I was a seeker of truth, I lived the energy, all right, I lived the vibrations, okay, I was channeling, but for me the most important thing is the truth. The truth is called Love, Agape.
But when you still use the word Love, your brain understands everything but Love. Because it will send you back to your past experiences, that is, the conditioned love you have lived with your husband, wife, children, with the vibration, but the zero time, there is no vibration. They are there, yes of course, but you, you remain motionless in the center, immutable, and you are especially in Joy.
And when you live this naked joy, you cannot confuse it with anything else. As I say all the time, you can only recognize yourself. And now it's over. It doesn't mean that you don't have any more trouble, it doesn't mean that you don't have any more health problems, even if indeed there are so many things that have transformed in my body as in the bodies of those who live in zero time.
You can only see the changes, but you are not looking for them, they are naturally made by intelligence, and not by your will. That's why, when we talked about motivation on the first day, it kind of got to me, because motivation is personal. Yet it is precisely the sacrifice of the person that makes it possible to live the truth today.
But everything you care about, keeps you. If you value a story, if you value a movement, if you value a master, whoever he may be, even the most prestigious, you cannot be free, and you cannot be autonomous.
And when Christ said: "When I come back, I will come and cut", yes, he comes to cut all the illusions, it is not a battle between warriors of light, that is still bullshit. What needs to be decided and pruned is in our beliefs, in our energies, in our visions, in our perceptions.
Who perceives? You are not through perception, you are not feeling. Who can see? Who lives?
It's so simple. You see, I'm always trying to find, because it's something that's so natural, that's why I called it the absolute I or the natural state, I can't say better, because the truth can only be lived, it can't be said.
As they said, you can understand all the mysteries of the universe, you can travel in all dimensions, this is the first epistle of Saint Paul to the Corinthians. I could have the gift of all the charisms, I could speak all the languages, I could move the mountains, if I miss Agape, it is useless.
Now all these milestones that have been laid since the coming of the Elohims in 50,731 BC, in the last cycle, all the milestones that have been laid even at the destruction of the last Atlantis in less than 10,000 I no longer know how many, have only been milestones, since everything is written.
And when I say it's a video game, I'm not kidding, it's because everything has really been thought out, everything has been written. Now, Allos, people are asking me, "By whom?" By intelligence itself, why do you want it to be by someone. So of course, by Abba, since Abba is anterior to creation. But as I say, you are all Abba.
I don't claim anything, I don't create anything, I am what life offers me. I was asked to come to Quebec, I came to Quebec, I was asked to go to the Canaries, I go to the Canaries, I no longer decide anything.
I decide, yes, for my life, the choice of a car, and even then, knowing that we are conditioned, as I explained, but it is part of the illusions of choice, but that we must lead in this world.
But in relation to spirituality, to vibration, unlike all the work we have done, where we have focused on, we have created the yoga of unity, a Friend, Maharshi, has created the yoga of unity to focus us in consciousness on the points of access, to supra consciousness, so to the re-synthesis of the body of eternity, the seamless body, but to allow us to live that, even this body of eternity, the stellar lines, the stellar origin, is cinema, since everything happened at the same time zero, the alpha and the omega.
Even if Christ said: "I am the alpha and the omega, the way, the truth and the life", because at that time, no one could live it. Bernard of Montreal also when he talked about the sixth root race, he was talking about a linear succession, but there is no time.
When you live it, there is no time. If, here, I am aware that there is time, that it is time to eat, that there we have an appointment at this time and another. Yes, it's about the character and what happens on the stage, but the truth doesn't need a story.
And, once again, you can only recognize yourself by living it. And the best way to live it is not to ask yourself questions, even if you answer the questions, because it is the game of questions, when you are alone, be quiet, do not ask for anything, remain calm, welcome, do not give anything, go through everything, stay still, but that's not me who says it, you have the teaching of Eckhart Tollé, he explained it perfectly, but at that time when he wrote it, it was not liveable, there are very few who have...
Today it is accessible to everyone. Christic information, i. e. the Christic matrix, was deployed as soon as the primary anomaly was removed.
Anyone can live in zero time. As I said, there is no requirement, except to accept the sacrifice. At that point, well, I wanted to partly block, well, I could talk about it in a neuroscientific environment in the same way. I don't need a spiritual alibi, or energy or vibrations.
Of course the energies you feel them, the vibrations are there. But I know that I am none of these things, that is, I remain at zero time, at the fixed point, and now, even standing, even moving, and I cannot be fooled by a role, a function, any claim, by mastering anything. My name is Jean-Luc Ayoun, period.
Yes, in the back.
Oh yes, there was a question here first, excuse me, we'll take them in order.
- Brother: I don't know,........ it seems so fundamental to me. But first and quickly, I would like to say that I really appreciate Jean-Luc Ayoun, so that he is not shocked by what I could possibly say in my own way, I also appreciate many things that I considered to be deeply related to me in everything I have heard, I'm telling you, especially now that it's very easy to get caught up in astrality when you have feelings that are dictated, not by light, but by other manipulators who are involved in astrality, that I believe, because I've experienced it a little bit.
- So now my question is about perfection, well, what I understood is that we are...
(Interruption) Yes... Ah, I'm sorry... Are you all right?
Yes, yes, we can hear you.
- ... It's that we're perfect...
Not in this body.
- ... Excuse me?
You are perfect in truth, but not in this body, perfection is not of this world, and of any world for that matter.
- ... All right. And there has been a lot of talk about acceptance, which is frankly, which is what everyone needs to strive for more and more, and in connection with that, I wonder how it can be right that the world is perfect, that we are perfect, in spirit, and that we all have to go through trials at different levels, also, whether it is a collective or personal trials, I am not even talking about the departure of those who are dearest to us, but full, full, full of trouble, and I still do not understand today, and I have nothing to sell, I do not understand why we have to go through this.
- I left out the business of karma, because it was discussed at length....
(Laughs)
Bravo.
- ... And then the way we see things on the outside, we see it in part, so it's not worth talking about it again, but even when, there is a reason for everything, this reason is not intellectual, this reason is...
Of course. She's neuro-physiological. The reason is neuro-physiological, as I explained, the suffering that is imposed on you, in fact it is you, but it is what will allow you to live the resilience. At a certain stage, at a certain degree of suffering or hardship, whatever it may be, physical, family or emotional, we all have billions of reasons to have hardships, we all know it, we all live them.
But it is precisely because of these trials that you get out of character. It is a neurochemical process, that is, at some point in time of suffering, there has been so much suffering, whether in the body or under certain circumstances, obviously the person cannot accept it, which I am telling you. But it is the truth that can be expressed and scientifically expressed at the neuroscientific level.
The most extreme suffering, what does it do, at some point when you suffer too much, you give up, and it is at that moment, especially now, not before, especially now, that it is the moment when you give up because you are overwhelmed by suffering and you can't take it anymore, that you no longer seek a cause, therefore karma, and that there too you accept, and that, at that moment, it will be crossed.
Remember, acceptance creates the crossing, that's the hardest thing to understand, because it can't be understood there either, it can only be lived. But nevertheless, it is explained at a purely neuroscientific and neurochemical level, at a given moment, the neurotransmitters who are responsible for suffering, i. e. what we are called in behaviour, the avoidance of suffering, or the attitude towards trial, which is one of the primary behaviours of the human being, which is expressed through the circuits of reward and punishment, is overwhelmed.
And when it is overwhelmed, because there is too much suffering, the mechanism of resilience occurs. When you fall, you can only go up. It is the only explanation and it is scientifically valid, but you cannot accept it as a person.
- ... In any case, thank you for this explanation, I had, let's say another question, which is the following. If we all go (...) we will be penetrated by everything we say about Jesus in the gospels of different kinds, etc... it appears in a little bit masked by the Jesus and all that, that Jesus was obviously a character whose goodness is not discussed, but who was extremely severe. That's what you say when you read that, trying to...I obviously took it for granted at first that everything that had been written or almost was right...
So, is that what you heard or were there?
- ... No, no, I read about different sources...
What you have read does not interest me, it is what you are living that interests me, it is what you have lived that interests me. What you read, I don't care, it's just reading.
I find that Love, Agape, a priori, I feel that, we can't, love is not just sweet. To be able to live love, at least I feel it like that, I may be wrong, but you have to have a certain objective and, in quotation marks, severe look at what you do to really practice love in a way that benefits everyone...
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Love is something light, something simple, it is the way of childhood, it is the way of innocence, and it is certainly not severity or rigour. All this is part of the old world, part of the patriarchy, part of religious rules, no Buddhist, no imam, no rabbi, can live the truth until he has discovered the humour in him.
- ... The love in him, what do you mean...
The humour in him, the humour. But not the derisory humour, but the humour, that is to say the naked joy because when you live the truth, and we see it on millions of brothers and sisters, they have what I call the banana, they have a smile on their faces, they have recognized themselves.
- ... Okay, but I agree with that, I don't feel like I'm someone who, let's say, is prickly, on the contrary, I'm open to everything that's going on, and I understand it like that at the same time, so maybe there's...
But again, you can't understand it, you can only live it. You see how the mind systematically returns to the assault, but it is not a criticism, it is the same for everyone.
You can't understand it, you can only live it. But living it requires acceptance. Do not try to understand what you accept, be yourself acceptance, and you will get rid of your concepts in the same way, as you got rid of this notion of karma in twenty-four hours.
(Laughs)
- ... I'm not sure, but...
(Laughter and applause)
Speak into the microphone they all hear. So go ahead, we're listening.
- Sister: I really don't know how to say this, I really didn't know where to start, but I lived a moment that we can't name, and which, on several occasions, and then it would get bigger and bigger, and then I really know who I am, I recognized it is who I am. And sometimes I feel, cry, cry a lot when I feel these joys there, even when I do the dishes or meet someone, I felt, even through a song of..., what I have lived brings this back to me, but what I have lived. I want to know who is crying, I want to know why this crying, is it an emotion, what is it?
It's much more than an emotion. Just imagine on a human level, you have someone you love, a child, a husband, a companion, a brother, a sister, no matter how much you lose sight of them. When you find him, what are you going to do? You're going to cry. When you find yourself, you can only cry for joy, but it is real tears that come out, yes of course. You can shiver, you can have this breath of unspeakable Love, because you have recognized yourself, so they are tears of gratitude.
Yes, it can make you cry, of course, yes, it can be so vast that, indeed it shakes you up, and that obviously the character in the first times it is lived, can only wonder, it's normal, why I cry, why I shudder all the time, why I feel like I'm from everywhere, because there is indeed, you recognized yourself as you said, but this recognition is so strong, it's something we had forgotten, all of us, that when you live it, indeed.
Then you remain motionless at the zero point, but the character, the self, crosses a whole bunch of layers, as I said, we rewind the film, there are some today who are having dreams of their childhood, where they solve in the dream everything that had been dissonant, distorted in their experience of this life, and you have to cross it.
That's why we insist a lot, when you go through something, go through it. Then you can ask questions, like you're doing now. But if you were to ask yourself when you shiver about why you shiver, you wouldn't live it anymore, you know.
So live it, and you will understand everything afterwards. And you no longer need an explanation, even if it's nice to talk about things and others, or even talk about energy, vibration, but we're free to talk about it, because we're no longer subject to it, we're no longer dependent on it.
True freedom is there. The real autonomy is there. But of course, for a year now, you have suspected that brothers and sisters have been living moments of stasis, moments of emotions, and I can't escape them, it's normal, we rewind the film as I said, we close the book, but you have to evacuate everything that remains in you of uncertainties, of suffering, but I'm not talking about karma, I'm talking about what has been lived in this life that is fundamental.
So the more you accept, the more you accept what I said earlier about acceptance, without questioning yourself, the more time you have to question yourself afterwards, whether in a dream, whether it is when you cry or shiver, or when you feel things, accept it. And then it's settled.
- ... But it is the one and only question that remains in me today, because I know what I have lived through, but it is the only question. I can even be here... lunch and I sincerely... that I recognized, that I lived, that I lived it... That's why I have no questions, I never have any more questions.
But you know how to make the difference between tears even of emotion, because it is what I would say the ultimate emotion, the one that leads you to what you are, and that accompanies what you are, beyond being, accept them, they are there, it's like that, and moreover when I said, for example, even for a suffering, you have a disease, you have to treat it, with energy, by going to the doctor, but first try to embrace
Look, the condition of my foot two days ago because I had received a shock, that's it, it's over. Oh I put on cream, I was given cream, but I didn't even think about treating myself or anything, I let life work, and if you let life work, you can only find that the intelligence of light will be much more effective and active than all the techniques you can use.
But I cannot tell you to stop medicine, stop energy, stop care, because for everyone it is different, but the one who lives what you are liiving, necessarily, you can only see changes in behaviour, physiology, at all levels, so it is concrete and material proof, but as you expressed it, you recognized yourself, it cannot be otherwise, and as long as you do not recognize yourself in this zero time, in this Agape, you are still subjected to the character.
But that's what you have to go through. So here too, the main point is acceptance. To discover the evidence of who you are, goes through all levels through acceptance. But sometimes, acceptance doesn't work, you have a health or family problem, you accept, you accept, and then it doesn't change anything. So, at that point don't be stupid, go to a doctor, go to a lawyer if there is a problem to solve.
Get rid of it the way you know it. But always try first to embrace, because that's how it happens, and especially in the most incomprehensible and hardest things, I don't speak for you, but for example for our friend earlier.
If you have this behavioural attitude, you will notice very quickly, even if it doesn't always work, but you will notice very quickly that the solution is there. It is not in understanding, it is not in energy, because as I said and I repeat today, I worked as a doctor, for twenty-five years on energy, with crystals, with acupuncture, very young, but energy, if we think about it well, it is part of the astral, since it is action-reaction.
The truth is evident. It does not need action-reaction.
Remember, in the universe there are two laws, one concerning illusion, which is action-reaction, and the second, and the only one that is true, it is not a law, it is called Grace, it is called Agape Love.
And that's all. And if you want to live this Agape Love, welcome, accept and let it pass through what must pass through you, remaining motionless, that is to say, the tranquility, silence and laziness of which Osho spoke, which will allow you to see and especially to live the truth, because in fact there is nothing to see, there is nothing at all to see, there is only to recognize yourself.
And today, recognition is done immediately, as soon as you accept it. But it's not a mental decision, acceptance, it's a neurochemical mechanism, which occurs independently of your will or desire, which actually occurs in the process called resilience, which has been perfectly studied in neuroscience, and which has perfectly been expressed by a French psychiatrist named Boris Cyrulnik, who explains it perfectly.
You also have the teachings for those who want to turn elsewhere, from a sociologist named Erich Fromm, who has talked a lot about love, and indeed, the intellect can also help you to live this, provided you look in the right place, but don't wallow in action-reaction. That's why they say that it can only be lived, understanding comes after, and that's an invitation to acceptance.
That is to say, I'm here, come on, crucify me, but it's not a physical crucifixion, it's an inner crucifixion and a neurochemical mechanism that puts an end to the dictatorship of the reptilian brain (I explained to you that it's the reptilian brain that decides for you, even when you think you decide), and which opens the doors of Hic and Nunc, that is, the stars that allow access to multidimensionality in the first place, and then to understand that even all these dimensions, all these worlds, all these creations, are only something that passes, something that is not immutable.
The only truth is immutable, it is what we are, but that is in taôism, it is everywhere, it is not only, but today, it is liveable, it is achievable, it is accessible to everyone, it is the great difference.
We no longer need concepts, even if they have been important, we no longer need spiritual teachings, even if they have been useful, we only need to be in humility and simplicity. There is no better way to arrive and live, in quotation marks, this truth that has always been there, through humility and simplicity.
But I am not talking about the humility played in relation to others, already in relation to oneself, accept to be nothing and you will discover that you are the whole.
And for that, there is no need for rigour, there is sometimes need for a little violence, for those who listened to Bidi, in 2012, it was for some very, very violent, by the powerful voice, by all the concepts he broke that had been built.
So, did you have another question? She wanted to finish.
- ... It is that, personally, when I spoke of the notion that it is a lived experience to recognize what we are, it is done in you, and it is shared by Jean-Luc... and I am not in it all the time, of course, but it is only in very simple daily moments like a dinner...
Do the dishes.
- ... I feel, I experience this again and... ... I have another life, I have a real life and, it's naturally, it's crying.
It is in the simplest and most ordinary moments of your life that you will live it, it will not be in alignment, because it is vibratory rises, expansions of consciousness, but to find the natural state, it is the moment when you are busy as I said to do something, which is nevertheless banal, daily, that you cry because it is the truth that is there.
The character is busy with a normal task, there you are available. You are much more available today when you are in your simplest human life, whether it is cleaning, changing a baby's diapers, or even arguing with your husband or partner, because there you are fully present, and it happens to you at that moment, and that's normal.
However, if you want to take over the process, it's over, it's impossible.
- ... No, it's not my case, it's not that, it's not that.
Yes, yes, we agree, that's exactly what you say, what I say, it's the same thing, that's really how it works, and as I said, I'm in love in front of a flower, I'm in love all the time, I can't help it, even when I get angry, God knows that in good ram I can get angry for sometimes trifles, but it's the character's reactive mode, but then I laugh at it, I see the character, I know I'm not that.
And yet I play the game, that's what it's all about, it's not about running away, it's not about looking elsewhere, tomorrow, or through a teaching or a master, or a guru something, it's about accepting your humanity.
Today, it is the only way, it has been explained by Gemma, by Therese, for enough years, but it is the truth. That it be Master Philippe de Lyon, I told you, when asked, but how he can perform such miracles, well yes, he said: "it is because I am the smallest of you".
And remember, and we have the illustration today, even in relation to very great beings, who have done a great deal of good on this earth, we are not going to give names, but it concerns all the masters of the time and even recent masters, because there are no longer any masters on earth, but there have been great playwrights, great therapists, they have all fallen, yes, because they have organized the truth.
The truth cannot and should not be organized. It is an intimate process that is lived alone in silence, and the best way to be alone in silence is to accept one's simplest humanity, and indeed, as you say, it is at the moment when you are going to be spontaneous, it can be by taking a picture of a bird, it can be by observing a flower, or by cleaning, that paradoxically, you are most available for the truth.
Therese had understood it perfectly, Therese of Lisieux, whom she expressed in History of a Soul, she had accepted to disappear, she submitted to everything that was asked of her, and it is through this that she became this great saint. But Therese she was insignificant in her life, she did not live the mystical processes of Ma Ananda Moyi or Gemma, she had a life, she wanted it, as she herself said in History of a Soul, the most miserable there is, because she knew it was the truth, and she knew that so she went directly to heaven. And that's exactly what happened.
And that is unbearable for the person, and it is even more unbearable for the spiritual ones, because they are attached to their history, their role, their function, they take themselves for this or that, but as long as you take yourself for something other than what you are, that is to say your name and first name, the last key, you are not free, you cannot be.
How can you realize that all the others are in you, if not by disappearing from yourself, what I have called sacrifice.
- ... But here, in what I lived, thank you for these elements because it was... ... shared, it is that, when we talk about sacrifice, I say to myself but it is where the sacrifice, I did not see the sacrifice.
The sacrifice is very joyful, but you have to do it to see it on the other side. As long as you are on the person's side, it is horrible, and if in addition, you have a role or function called spiritual, because you have lived experiences in multidimensionality, which you value....
- ... But I didn't experience anything...
So this is what we call the path of childhood.
- ... I've never seen any souls, any... I've never seen anything... except the... in my legs.
Happy, happy, happy the simple-minded, the kingdom of heaven belongs to them, you are an illustration of this.
Whoever claims anything, an understanding, whoever claims possession of light, the light is there when you are no longer there, but to be no longer there, you have to be completely, and to be completely there, you have to be in this way of childhood, that is, you have not lived anything.
That is why it is much easier today, as I said, for people who have never felt and lived anything, than for those who are cluttered with visions, cluttered with concepts, cluttered with energy....
- ... I have always only lived the heart. The heart is always... But I've never lived anything, revelations, except what was going up in my legs... That's all...
Yes, the Wave of Life. That's all. That's all.
- ... Nothing else...
But, you don't need to. Everything that was built in AD's time, that is, the yoga of Unity, the activation of stars and gates, made it possible to synthesize the body of eternity, the Christ matrix for humanity, but these beings, who followed AD at the beginning, were the most dangerous, because they were the ones who cared most about their spirituality and, of course, when Bidi arrived to break all that, initially in 2012, you can imagine that half of them left;
They came back seven years later, because they understood that it was the truth. But it's intolerable when you're in spirituality what I'm saying, because, what's the point of making an effort, what's the point of going to experience the dimensions, what's the point of having visions, nothing. You're never free like that.
True freedom is what you express and what you live. There is no other truth. Everything else is just bulky. Anything that has ever been useful, you must get rid of.
It's the same when you build a building, to take an analogy like that, or when you do a renovation. You put scaffolding in, but then you have to remove the scaffolding. And this is where those who are still inserted in the dream of spirituality are unable to let go, but as I say, there is no judgment, no condemnation, I say let the dreamers dream, they can only wake up.
Don't go confronting or opposing them, they can call me what they want, it goes through me because what do you want it to do to me. When you live the truth, as you do, you can never be led by a speech or anything else again.
- ... There's nothing left for you to be interested in, no topics, zero. You know what you are and you are everything... (Laughs)... That's the way it is...
And there are some who have had the chance to experience it, and I am sure that as you say, you felt everything in your heart, you were like that already when you were born.
- ... I don't know, since I was a little girl, I felt something inside here... in my heart and then my heart is always, always... I don't want to talk about it too much because I would cry about it...
Yes, you are in the truth, you are the absolute truth, that's all. And on the other hand, everything you put in front of you, past experiences, spirituality, energies, vibrations, today clutters you up. This was not the case three or four years ago, it has not been the case for all time, but now it is superfluous.
Now there are beings indeed, of which you are a part, there are others in the room, Louis is like that too, he knows who he is since he was born, you see.
But these people, they had to hide somewhere, because they were not like the others, so they were even the worst in this world, they didn't understand why they were all love and others are not like that, you know.
Today, finally, you have, in quotation marks, the reward, you were in the truth already when you arrived in this world, but you could not manifest it, because you would have been swept away by life, so somewhere you had to be preserved. You couldn't talk about it, you could only live it in silence. Today, you can testify to that, of course.
- ... Yes, but this is the first time I've testified.
Yes, yes, but I'm sure, I'm absolutely convinced.
- ... I'm going too fast. I shared very silently with you
Yes, yes, because the time has come....
- ... That's it, that's it.
So I don't know how old you are, but there are some who have been waiting for sixty years to be able to express what they are going through, because it wasn't expressible before. Look again today at the number of beings who believe they are spiritual and who, for them, I am the devil, in person, the one who prevents them from going in circles, oh yes, that's the case.
- ... It's because I don't know if it's the character or if it's the mind whispering it backwards, but we don't want to be taken from someone else, we want the other... ... You know what you're going through, you can't name it, you can't describe it, but you know it's that. You know that's it, and you can't share it and you can't say what you felt, what you lived, but you know that's it, that's the pure truth, it's vast, it's beautiful, it's all beautiful, it's so magic....
And yes, and then when you arrive in a world of suffering, where everyone wears a mask and you live the truth, what do you do, you enter into a survival strategy;
- ... You wear that mask there, but you're not comfortable with those masks there, you don't want to play with the masks anymore.
But now, rejoice, it's over.
- ... Thank you...
(Applause)
- Sister: I remember something.
Take the microphone, take the microphone.
- Sister: Okay. It's crying beautifully, it's crying in front of the immense beauty.
She's gonna make me cry too.
(Laughs and exclamations)
- ... And yesterday, you can come with me very often, because when I cry a lot, because otherwise, I don't have any others... but I cry, but I cry with beauty.
Crying is just gratitude. It doesn't matter if it's an emotion, I called it the ultimate emotion...
- Previous sister: We recognize ourselves in the other, you recognize yourself, you know that this other one is...
Yes, of course.
- ... That's right...
That's all. That's all.
(Laughs)
Come on, one more question.
- Room: Who wants to go after that...
(Laughs)
- Sister: So I, at the end of a meditation, at one point, I opened my eyes and everything was white.
The white paradise.
- ... Then, and there I was finally moved, I called a sister and I was invaded by an immense shiver that shook me from head to toe... and an immense Love settled in my heart, a fire...
And you recognized yourself.
- ...Oh, I have chills. So I want to ask you, is this a door that opens to the white paradise, it's almost the white paradise...
It's the white paradise, it's the white paradise.
- ... Ah, I understood that in part. Thank you.
This is of course.
That's it, when you go through this, you don't give a shit about spiritual stories, saviors, masters and all that, you've found yourself.
- Sister: Okay, so...
No, no, it's perfect. Bidi said at the time: "My words cannot fail", I am obliged to note, in all the meetings we do everywhere now, that what is happening, independently of me, whether it is Bidi, Abba, poum poum poum as we did yesterday, well, the fact of being together is over, everyone really opens up. There is no way to escape from who you are today. That's impossible.
And everything that is in confrontation, beliefs, habits, that you put in front of you, but is swept away by, what Maria says, by what I say, even if you don't agree, I don't care, on the contrary, the more you are in opposition, the more you will consume yourself.
You can't escape it, it doesn't belong to me, neither Abba, nor Jean-Luc Ayoun, it depends on the intelligence that's there. You've been through it, that's all.
So go ahead.
- Sister: Can it be done through music?
What?
- ... Can it be done through music?
By the... I didn't understand the word.
- ... through music?
Yes, of course, yes, absolutely.
- ... Because when I listen to music, it's like...
You saw the videos at Elisa's house in Spain, we have a friend who lives in Chicago, who sang, there was also Charles Simon, you have Daniel the Belgian. Of course, today those who are privileged in this respect are those who express conscious co-creation, whether it is music, whether it is any art, they put in manifestation, not only an artistic genius, but they put in Love.
- ... It's like if I become a music, I don't hear it, I become like... she sings inside.
She sings inside, yes, absolutely. But so do those who sing outside. When you carry the zero time information, you just have to be present. As I told you, I can do the belly dance, the result will be the same.
(Laughs)
So it's more pleasant to hear singing than to see a gentleman dancing the belly dance, but the result is the same.
- ... To have it, completely, everywhere.
Yes, yes, yes. And the testimonies you have heard from Maria, for example, but obviously it amplifies zero time in the space where we are, not only for all those who are listening, all those who will listen.
In other words, the more we live it, as I said, it is a pandemic, it is inexorable and unavoidable, no one will escape it. At the time I was saying we don't leave anyone, but it didn't mean anything yet, since there's no one there. Simply, and this has been said, the more the chaos of the earth would grow, the more years Uriel had already announced it, the more joy would be in us.
This is exactly what is happening, it is not an unhealthy joy to see the illusion being destroyed, but simply to see it being consumed to give way to Love. That's all. That's all.
Yes.
- Sister: I have a technical question. Mikael has often told us about sowing land and sowing water. I would like to have a clarification on that.
What's the question about that?
- ... Have some details.
Yes, but which one?
- ... With these words.
Sowing?
- ... Yes.
It is the sowing of zero time. It is the sword of truth, the one that cuts through illusions, that fights nothing, except to cut off everything that is superfluous, the story, the character, the creation, the worlds, the universes, the multiverses.
- ... But why did he separate land and water?
Why?
- ... Why he used land sowing and water sowing.
But it was very important, it corresponds to the four elements. That is what happened in Gibraltar at the end of last year, we brought together the four orients, the four elements, the four Hayot Ha Kodesh, it was explained by Phahame, it is the truth.
And once again, I have no merit since everything has been written, I am nothing, I just follow what is written. I accepted the sacrifice, I accepted by living it that everything is written, I only follow what has already been programmed, and that's all, I have no merit.
- ... But if we follow what is already written, why do we say that Nibiru is moving forward, move back...
Depending on the embrace, no longer individual, but collective.
- ...Yes, but if everything has already been written.
No, no, no. I remind you, however, that there are many brothers and sisters who are in spirituality, and who formally oppose what I say and what I experience, they are the most dangerous. So it takes time for the contamination by zero time to affect all those who have been on the path of childhood since they were born, so that they dare today to be really who they are, in the eyes of the world, and not only in their inner recognition.
And no one will be able to oppose Love, it is impossible.
- ... But if everything is written in advance, then what luck...
Hey, a video game, it's all written down, but you have multiple ways to get there. Some people finish a video game in a week, others will take years. Now this video game, it is collective, so it is enough that there are enough that carry the information of naked joy or zero time, you call it as you wish, or absolute truth, so that it contaminates every time, not in a linear way, but exponentially.
The tipping point has already been exceeded for many months. But we don't care, we have all the time in the world.
- ... Thank you.
So Jean-Claude, he wants to talk.
Come on, talk.
(Laughs)
- Brother: I say thank you. Beyond a few words... deeply (very moved) There are no words for that, there is just a reality...
- Sister: It is what we are, it is what we are...
We're all going to end up in tears, if this continues.
(Laughs)
- Same brother: And I mean, yes, I was given some experiences, I talked about it a little yesterday, and then, ...
( He is addressing) the sister who has previously given her testimony of gratitude)
- ... because her happiness here and then I say to you, thank you for expressing yourself, because it contaminates, it becomes a contagion there...
Well, we're lucky to have a little Therese with us, so it's perfect...
(Lots of tears)
- Sister/Brother.... We are nothing... but it is so beautiful to be nothing...
(Everyone laughs)
- Brother: ...life, yes, is true, and once again, I finish on that, then I tell you, don't stop talking, don't stop saying what's going on, because it contaminates...
- Sister: We don't need the words, we have... to be there, I need to be there. I'm sorry, I'm sorry...
All right, we'll go get the tissues.
(Laughs)
- Brother: Thank you for being there, and thank you for saying it, there, in your own way, because it doesn't sound wrong, it sounds true. Thank you.
That's the only truth.
(The sister expresses herself, but hardly understandable, many emotions from everywhere, everyone speaks).
- Sister:... Please, I'm nothing, I'm nothing. I have no words, I only know that it's very beautiful, it's very beautiful, I can't...
(Many tears...)
Our Maria is lighting everything up!
(Laughs)
Any other questions?
- Brother: Well, quite simply, can we hope, yes or no, that the cause, the causes of suffering are capable of diminishing and then disappearing, because, I have been given reasons..., I am willing to accept them, but I would like to know if yes or no, we have reason to hope, everywhere.
But don't hope so, live it!
- ... Excuse me?
Don't hope so, live it!
- ... I can't live it, no, these are words to me, I see misfortune around me, I don't want to talk too much about my business, but...
Who sees misfortune?
- ... I just want to say a word, it's when I was a kid, I had a lot of it, that is, head surgery, seven, seven operations... ... and then it goes on like that... But there are millions of them who are well in much worse situations and about which I have heard personally, and I, the concern, what is the point of... Well, it's nice, everyone... I liked it... everyone is likely to develop love and that will influence, even indirectly, the behaviour of all those who are crazy, that's true.
- On the other hand, I am sad to note that there have already been many... individually, in associations that are not bogus, but I no longer see much progress since I am... and I am sad, that is why I ask the question, I would like a non-formal answer, it is not by words that we live this...
But only you see words. I would like to point out that what we are experiencing is not words here. You're the one who puts words on it, what we're going through, we're going through it. Everything depends on the point of view, the person's point of view will be more and more inscribed in suffering, whether you want it or not.
Because what happens on earth, in a purely scientific way, is a process of global extinction, and the one who remains in the person will suffer, until he drops out.
So the end of suffering is about excess suffering, for those who do not let go of the person's point of view.
- ... But a child suffers, a child of let's say, a child under seven or eight years old, I don't see how we are capable of, he is not able to access this understanding and not necessarily to develop what it takes to...
Quite simply because the joy is there, it has always been said, even suffering children, you know, I have accompanied children who had leukaemias and who died in terrible suffering.
I will take just one example. A woman I had treated because she had sterility problems, and at the time, with acupuncture, I was able to trigger ovulation without any problem. So I worked a lot, more than thirty years ago, on the first IVF, you know, test tube babies.
And this woman became pregnant after my operation, a beautiful little girl I was caring for when she was young, and at four or five years old, she developed a devastating leukaemia, with intolerable suffering until the moment of her death. At the time of her death, what happened, she stood up in her bed, she looked up, and she said, "Mom", I knew the mother and daughter, and the mother said, "But my darling, I'm here".
"No, not you, my heavenly mother", and at that moment when you live that, there is no place for suffering. There is suffering as long as there is a character, as long as there is belief in a story, as long as there is hope for an improvement that will never happen, you can only see the suffering.
Today, however, it is different, because joy covers suffering, and unfortunately, unfortunately or fortunately, it means nothing, it is only through suffering that humanity will understand who it is. I can't help it, it's just the way it is. Like it or not, that's really what's going on.
Once again, these are not concepts, these are not things to discuss, the process of extinction of humanity is ongoing. And it's not fifty years from now, it's not ten years from now. So let us enjoy life, let us be, in your language, perhaps more positive, rather than looking at suffering.
What you look at is reinforced, that you have to accept it, whatever your past has been, if you look at the suffering, you will suffer. If you look at love, even without living it, it will grow. Choose.
- ... I have already chosen...
Thank you.
- Thank you. And I wish you the best, but we are far from some people...
No, no, we're extremely close.
- ... (Incomprehensible)... people in these dramatic situations. Thank you again.
We're extremely close. There is no time.
So.
- Sister: I just wanted to share an experience that I have..... in the night. So I fell asleep, at one point I felt (I felt myself) burning, I was very hot, it made me hot, and I thought Bidi and I looked at the time, it was eleven fifty and, to my left, I had the impression I saw Bidi who was there, the big smile...
(Big laughs)
But Bidi never lies, when he says he comes, he comes.
- ... Ah, he was there, and I was in shock, ah my heart...
He was there, yes.
- ...Oh, my heart...
I have no memory of it, because I fell asleep at 10 o'clock and I was very happy. But this morning, however, I can tell you that it was on fire.
- ... And when I woke up, I felt, I felt my heart...
It was different.
- ...beating, but I don't know how, the rhythm was slow...
Yes, this is what is called the usual rhythm of the diastole systolic heart, which really and concretely passes on to a three-beat rhythm. It is the new tri-unity that leads you to the one and that leads you to the absolute truth, that of Agape Love. But not love in the sense of opposition to suffering, because there we will never get out. You've lived it, you're living it, that's all.
- ... In relation to that, I have a question about him, as I felt it like that, naturally without paying too much attention to what's going on, it wasn't too much, no, more fixed because... no, it has nothing to do with that...
Yes, don't think about the past anymore, it's been lived, just settle more and more there in your heart, yes, that's all.
- ... But, it's how to be in this, without being too much...
No, you have to be completely here, it's not too much here, completely here, completely here, completely in your humanity, don't think about it, it's done without you.
- ... I'm trying to understand, but...
No, no,no, you live it, the understanding will be done by itself, do not try to sustain an experience....
- ... Yes, that's right.
Just be yourself every day, every minute, that's the only rule.
If you are really honest and sincere with yourself by accepting Life, that is, the simplest, cleaning, sweeping, taking care of what life has given you to do, that's how you will live it, it's not by deciding to put yourself in vibration, by aligning yourself, or by thinking about the past experience, or by seeing Bidi again, that it will happen. He's here, he's in you, that's it, you see. Don't ask yourself any questions, be as simple as possible in what you have to experience and everything will be done through you, and above all, without you.
- ... Thank you.
Thank you for your testimony.
- Sister: I find it interesting because in the same meeting, we had the example of the simulacrum and sacred.
Of course.
- ... And I have a question about the twelve stars. Are the twelve stars that have been described for the crown of the head the genetician mothers?
Are the...?
- ... genetician mothers.
I didn't understand.
- Voice: If the twelve stars are the genetician mothers.
Ah, we're all genetician mothers. Don't put any more barriers. Obviously, for the sake of history, we have separated, within history, the role of a geneticist mother and not the role of Yaldabaoth, but all these are role plays. Of course, we are all Phahame, we are all Abba, we are really all the others.
So, from the moment you are all the others, everything you see, everything you touch, everything you pass through, you are Love naked, there is no longer any need, even the names of the stars, I don't remember them. The doors I know where they are for almost everyone, but all this has been lived, I don't need to carry my conscience on them.
So you see, indeed you said it, the travesty joins the sacred, one cannot escape Love, one cannot escape what one is. Before, those who lived it, they suffered, because they were alone, but today it is from everywhere. When I say from everywhere, it's not all the earth, but we don't need to be all the earth.
From the moment there are millions of us, it is the case, sincerely, from all over the world, to live it, even without ever having listened to Abba, AD, or my channelings, I have it in my family, I have members of my family, they have their hearts open, they don't even know what it is. It would not occur to them to attach this to Christ, Mary or anyone else, but simply when they experience this, they recognize themselves.
They don't need concepts, they don't need interiority, I have it in front of my own family, and I have it everywhere around me, in friends, brothers and sisters, who have never been interested in spirituality, because they were simple people, they were perfectly in their lives even if they were unhappy, because they were, not in contradiction, but a little out of step, between their authentic lived experience and what they saw around them, what, that people who play theatre scenes, that people who are in greed, in beliefs, and who are not Love.
And when you are in Love, really because you were born like that, or it fell on you as a child, in Theresa's time, you could only cling to Jesus, as she said, because there was nothing else, but today it is time to dare to be, and through this recognition, whether it is you, Maria or others, well, it is happening and we can only be contaminated, whatever the mental posture, whatever the convictions, whatever the beliefs.
As OMA said, you are cooked and annealed, even those who are opposed by conviction, by experience, to what we are living, are contaminated without their knowledge of their own free will, and cannot escape it. It's a certainty and there's no need to be convinced or to accept that, that's what I've been seeing for the past year and a half, from everywhere, really from everywhere.
Now we're a group, see how many we are, but when you go home, you're going to contaminate everything around you. It is infallible.
Why it's infallible, I'm not the one who's infallible. The intelligence of light, it is infallible, and it cannot be otherwise, the astral can no longer lie to us, it is the end of religions, it is the end of spiritual movements, it is the end of patriarchy, everything that still turns in appearance in this society, it turns in free wheel, you see well that everything is crumbling from all over the place.
Of course, you can say that nothing has changed, as our brother says, but if you have any curiosity about what is happening on earth in terms of volcanoes, earthquakes, climates, not to mention Nibiru, for the moment, that we do not see except under certain conditions, but it is enough to look around us, it is enough to see the light that there is on spirituality, which is only a form of predation, and nothing else, like another, simply it is presented with pretty finery.
And moreover they will criticize Yaldebaoth, him who locked us up, who prevented us from being free, yes, I too have been there, I was not born with Love like Maria, I know who I am indeed, I see my character, but I was in the best circumstances to, at first, make my head work since I have a vision and a I.Q. as we say that work, to be able to deliver the different relationships to you, wherever you look, whether in physics, on the events of the earth, in astrophysics, in neuroscience, in energy.
Well, that's how it happened, because it must have been like that, but as Jean-Claude said or as Maria said, all these are alibis, but they are part of the story that made it possible to get there.
That is, and to be true, to be authentic, transparent, or at least all those terms that have been used for years, as we can see today. This demonstration will be everywhere around you, in your families, wherever you look. In society, it is very clear that society is part of confinement. The societal organization, wherever it is, or in a dictatorship, in what is called even a participatory democracy, are only one way to draw you out of the truth.
That is to say, we will put you in contact with intermediaries, the government, the police, the insurance companies, we must organize society well. Yes, but life cannot be organized, and life has nothing to do with society, and as long as we believe we find it, it has been perfectly clever this societal history, and this history of the evolution of society, because it necessarily led, like any consumer society, since we are in a consumer world, to our own consummation.
That is not me saying it, it was Georges Bataille who said it at the time, but it is the truth. The more you set rules, the more you set laws, the more you want to guide the human being, it works to a certain point, the scam works to a certain point.
The problem, as Mark Twain said, is that it is much easier to deceive a human being than to make him admit that he has been deceived. But today, it is visible as, I call them red noses, it is visible as the nose in the middle of the face, you can see that the politicians are lying, you can see that your banker is lying to you, you can see that society is lying to you, there is no point in setting sail, but that is not why we should oppose it.
They seek reaction, because they are happy when there are reactions, because the forces of confrontation feed them. Be clear about what happens if you are interested in the world, but let the show go on.
It is the spectacle that is the most important, even through what is called chaos, since they themselves claim ordo ab chao; that is, chaos for a new world order, novus ordo, it is only Rome on the one dollar bills, but even they play this game.
Look, I explained it to you for civil status, your civil status does not belong to you, it is what has frozen you in a name and a first name, and yet it is through the last name and the first name that you have in this simulacrum, in this illusion, in this dream, that the truth is to be found. The simulacrum meets the sacred, as I have always said, and that is exactly what we are witnessing.
Suffering leads to Love, whether we like it or not, and that can be explained in neuroscience, I will not go back on that, it is perfectly explainable, it is perfectly understood. There is no alternative but Agape. I still prefer to use that word, again, even those who disagree with it, that's okay.
When you say Love, your brain, it understands everything but Love, it sees suffering, it sees condition, it sees affect, it sees emotion, but it cannot see the truth. We are Love and nothing else, neither world, nor form nor creation, and here, as I said, we can only recognize ourselves.
Even those who do not want to recognize themselves today, they have heard it; they are cooked and annealed, it is over, whatever they say and whatever they think today, that is the good news.
That is also the case, even in the scriptures, in quotation marks, even if they have been falsified, what Christ told you, but do not listen to anyone who would tell you that you are Christ, all this is cinema, it is a farce. But even this simulacrum, the confinement of the archons, the suffering, can only lead to Love.
The one who sees only suffering and not Love in it is because he is inserted in linearity. But Love is not in the linearity of time, it is everywhere. But if you are dependent on a point of view, that is, on a place of consciousness, whatever your personal intelligence, whatever you have lived, well you can't live it, it's impossible.
To do that, you have to accept to lose everything, you have to accept to drop everything, to accept to be true. Everything you hold, holds you, and it is unstoppable, it is a law of confinement, it is a spiritual law, which is part of illusion. Spiritual laws are not the truth, and I am not only talking about karma, I am talking about everything spiritual.
Moreover, the illustration of the great masters, called the Melchizedeks, they made things as strange as that, yes, and not only a little. Like religions, it's the same, everything we discover today, you're going to see everything that's going to burst in relation to these great beings, who passed through the earth, because they were subjected to predation, even if their hearts were open.
And at that time, the energy of love referred to power and predation. Today, this is no longer possible, if you are there, you can no longer be in predation. Because there are no more primary anomaly, that's the only reason, and again, it's just neuroscience.
Neuroscience is set in stone, that's how it works in this world. Whether you take it by any means, you cannot escape Love, it is impossible, and it is now.
There is no need to wait for Nibiru, there is no need to wait for the Never Event extinction which has already started many years ago, the more days pass, the more time seems to pass, the more it will be lived. It is inevitable.
I have said this since last year, it is evident from everywhere. And once again there is no need to be in a group as we are here, I told you, it happens to people who don't ask for anything. One of them will bend down to pick a flower, poof, he lives the truth. He was totally in the moment, available for the moment. He was not bothered to know what kind of flower it is, can I pick it, do I have the right to pick it or not, he saw the flower, he loved, even if he didn't put the word Love on it, he was in communion, in fusion with it, he is free.
And this freedom, you can find it, as you did earlier with Maria, with me, with any of you, as soon as you carry the information of this Agape joy, this naked joy, well, it is enough for this brother or sister to take you in his arms or look at you, you will melt. You can't escape, even if you think, and especially if you think the other way around. It's unstoppable.
And once again, it's not because I say so, it's because that's how it works, in universes, in planets, in black holes, in the cell, in society itself, that's what we see from everywhere.
Other questions, or other testimonies. There. Here, I'll be able to sit down for a while then.
You can't just stand in front of the microphone there.
- ... Is that okay?
Yes, I'm sitting here, I'm tired of standing.
- Sister: We have a sister who spoke to us, who asked us questions at Bidi, on the question of Quebec, you yourself at the first meeting we had in the evening, you told us about Quebec, which was there, that was where the purpose of this cycle, the last cycles, well, what... of Bidi, of Abba, but I was under the impression that you had not finished telling us about this thing.
Oh, yes, I've said it all. I can simply end by repeating the drawing made by a friend for those who follow, who makes drawings that illustrate trips, who wrote this morning: "Quebec, you are cooked and annealed, you are going to be the first country to explode with laughter, you are going to be the first country to die laughing". So the image, I don't remember, you'll have to look, but I remembered the comment.
- ...You mentioned some of the statues that had been found.
Yes, you have Pierre de Châtillon, you have the videos on youtube, he went to Gaspésie especially I think, where he found all the sculptures of the Elohims, the Nephilims, as we had in the Basque country.
- ... I was told that, where you are going, in Charlebois, that region, there were originally Nephilim who were there.
Yes.
- Are Nephilim great beings? Were they giants?
So the Nephilim were giants, we're not going to talk about history because if you saw them as they were at the time, they were wild hirsute brutes, dressed in animal skins, who were indeed very, very tall, more than three and a half metres tall, in a body of flesh, carbonated, whose only stay on earth, they were generally on fairly high points in the mountains, were to sculpt the stone to shape their dreams.
Of course, when the scrap metal ship, which was also called Nibiru, but which has nothing to do with what is happening now, which was dismatled at the celestial weddings, on August 15, 2009 by Metatron, by the metatronic pulse, if you will, these beings were in full free consciousness in a carbon body sculpting dream stones.
Besides, I also have videos, as Pierre de Châtillon did, I didn't publish them, but it's in the Basque country, where we have the Nephilim garden for example, we have a circle of fire that they created, you know there are seven of them, which would allow, when the time comes, because they had access to zero time, they played the dream game, but they didn't give a shit, since they knew that time didn't exist in the end, but they were inscribed in time, without being trapped afterwards, because you know that, then, as soon as even an Elohim came down to earth, he was trapped by the matrix and he could no longer reach his eternity, it is a trapping matrix.
So yes, of course, you have sculptures that are over there, in Quebec, there, the area you say, that's where he made his videos, what his name is, Pierre de Châtillon, who show these sculpted faces, these sculpted animals, these sculpted characters, that I personally found in the Basque country, yes, of course. It was the same thing, it was the Nephilim.
But the Nephilim, if you try to represent them today, do not see beings of light, they were wild hirsuths, all brown with dirty hair, disgusting, dressed in animal skins, who spent their time carving stone.
The only ones who were very beautiful, if we want to compare the Elohims with the Nephilims, were the Elohims. The Elohims were flesh beings when they descended into this plane, who were angelic, that is, they were blond, with curly hair, two metres, two metres, two metres twenty, of incredible plastic beauty, but the Nephilim, no.
- ... The Nephilim, they had the structure, the physique to play in the stone.
That's it, that's it. The Nephilim did not come, sorry, the Elohim did not come to create in matter, they came to allow to maintain this hidden zero time, to live it now. That is to say, they avoided the loss of pseudo individuality, that is, the passage through the machines to which transhumanism takes us today, consciousness no longer needs to be in biology, we will put it on printed circuits.
This will be even easier to control, which is called transhumanism. Steiner had talked about it perfectly.
(Incidentally)... Yes, OMA: "You came in, you're cooked". It's Pierre's drawing. But show him, you'll see.
- Sister: I know I can listen again, but you were talking about the Gaspé Peninsula, the Nephilim, not the Nephilim, but the Elohim, can you repeat?
So the Elohims did not come to Gaspésie, the Elohims themselves, they landed, in May 50,731 BC, on May 7, the day I broke the primary anomaly, I was one of the Elohims who arrived at that time, at the Council of Alta, which was my name, in the game, the theatre scene, which was given again when I read that name, I was on my ass, in the universe of diaspersies, who was talking about Atlantis, they were talking about the Council of Alta, and I told you, I have the memory of all my lives of that cycle or all the cycles, I can't help it, it's like that, but I'm not fooled, I know it was just a game.
But the Elohims did not come to the Gaspé Peninsula, the Elohims were in the Gulf of Mexico.
- ... Did you mention the sculptures, then the sculptures in Gaspésie, okay. We'll do some research.
Oh but you have the videos of Pierre de Châtillon, they are available, now I think he kept the location secret so that people don't go there, but if you live there, you will recognize the landscapes.
- Brother: He lives in Quebec, Pierre de Châtillon. I have seen it myself several times.
Yes, yes, absolutely. The only thing he left out if you want, that he forgot, is Nibiru, but that's okay.
- ... No, we talked mainly if you want to talk about the aggravation of wars, he has been in Palestine a lot...
Did he tell you where it was in the Gaspé Peninsula?
No, anyway, it was in the North, he's wandering around.
Finally, you have the images, you have the images on youtube.
So, I think it's going to be almost time, one last question, what time is it, five more minutes, until we're stopped by Johanne, if there are any more questions, don't hesitate.
- Sister: I'm checking something, it's... ... but it doesn't leave me. I had an experience one night, before that I had had messages, things like that, but one night I had lived, among other things, I was being embarked on a ship, and I saw how the planet earth burned completely, and there were children or people lying hunted and there was no more, I said, if it was yes in your heart Abba, I would take them away, and then among other things it was a night that I know I saw through all this, and yet I had never had an event like this before.
- I can tell you that there is Sylvia before that night, then Sylvia now, then I was never the same again after that and I woke up with the worst headache of my life, and it's my day off,... I sat down, then I felt I couldn't talk, I was so scared, I tried to place my head to vomit my... in fact, I tell him and say, "oh, you went too high, wait a minute... we'll help you... I didn't understand anything...
- But, despite the great suffering I experienced that night, it was the most beautiful moment I ever tasted in my life, and from there I know it exists, and I can't wait to go back there, that was it, but, I know it's part of the past, that you have to look forward, but it's all the time in me, that night, I know it's not there anymore, it's been over twenty years, then I saw everything burn, I saw everything.
Yes, but at the time you couldn't talk about it too much. Today you are countless, even in Quebec, and tomorrow we have someone who comes to attend the day, who spends his time in the Arcturian ships. An Arcturian ship, I drove one, until I told them, come on, I'm sick of it, there's no point in going to learn how to drive ships.
I went in Vegalian capsules a long time ago, since, even before, that is, in 1997, I thought I was going crazy, I found myself in a ship that crossed from France, northern France, to Mexico, in ten minutes, in a ship, at an incredible speed.
I was in ships of geneticist mothers, of course it often happens at night and, indeed, when you live that, everything is transformed, of course. Even at the time with the Végégiens, when I walked around in a Végégienne capsule to go to Mexico, when I came back, I didn't have a lot of them, because for me as a doctor, it was on the edge of schizophrenia.
The same thing the first time I exchanged my body with Ramatan, I found myself in his dolphin body in a crater, when I came back, I told Veronica at the time, "you take me to the hospital right away", because it seems so, especially at the time, so unlikely and so dissociated or schizophrenic, that you can't accept it.
It is the same principle as those who already live Love naturally because they were born like that, and who felt, but as strangers in this world, they are not in their place, they were not in their place in relation to the environment. That's normal.
But indeed, there are a lot of them doing it, I'm not talking about abductions, because those who were abducted to remove ovaries also, unfortunately it exists, especially in the United States, there is Dr. John Mack who was a psychiatrist, who is now dead, who has written fabulous books on it, it's a reality the abductions by the little grays, they exist. In the illusion and in the theatre scene, they are also of course there.
And besides, they are the relays with the illuminated on one side, the dracos on the other side, but the only difference is that all these people, they don't know that they play the same role, that is to say lead us to Agape.
- Sister: ... illuminatis and...
Wait, we can't hear you.
Ah, you have to move.
- ... Yes, I wanted to know, are the Annunakis and the Illuminatis two different groups?
That's different. They're two different groups.
The Illuminatis, that's what Pépère called the horns or the bad boys, they're the ones who made allegiance to these beings, but they're two different things. Just like the Dracos, what we call the Dracos, it has a very, very particular structure, I had the opportunity to approach it, fortunately I was not alone, it was Christ who brought me, Jesus, who took me before a redemptive drama, I did not lead to a big one.
If it hadn't been for him, I would have run away right away. At the time, it was ten, eleven years ago. But today I laugh at it, I laugh at it because I know that, even if they don't know it yet, as I explained for the civil status, they think they play a role, in the sham, but that brings them back to the sacred, whatever they say, there is no other possibility.
One last one, maybe.
- Sister: I don't touch what we were talking about here, it's just, you know, when you talk about the astral, I want to know, in the 80s, I used to go out of my body? but I didn't necessarily go into the astral, I went around the house, I used to go out outside, ... .. Then when I left my body, I felt it because there was a big rustle going on, there I knew, oh I take off, I knew it.
- I liked it, I liked it. One moment, one evening, my... who is there, then there I felt, but like two wings surrounding me,... it looked like that, and wanted to take me very, very fast and very, very far. And then I had like a species, at one point, I said no, there's something wrong, I don't want to bring myself like that....
In the 1980s, it could only be in the physical environment, or astral, it was impossible to go anywhere else, because of Van Allen's belt.
- ...So it was astral...
Yes, yes, completely. I too was leaving my body, it's characteristic, we feel the roar, a terrible aspiration, I found myself in the corners of my room looking at my body, I turned around the house, I travelled, but it was physical, where I was going, but I never went very far because I knew very well that it was astral.
- ... But that's it, me, when I realized that, it was automatic, I said no, but the fact is that when I was walking around the house, all that, I didn't see it as as astral,...
Yes, it was still astral, of course.
- ...It's still astral, okay.
But there was no other possibility at the time, and indeed, it happened to me too in the 1980s, even a little bit, not in the 1980s, 78-80s, those years when I left the body at will, but stayed in the astral, in the environment, either physical, etheric or astral, but we couldn't go beyond that, it was not possible.
That's precisely why, having lived through all this, I perfectly distinguish between what is astral and intelligent, or if you prefer, the illusory plane or the dream plane, and what is real.
Even the Arcturians, I told you, in 2013, we were flashed several times by the Arcturians, it's very strange after that, in the middle of the night, you see something moving, you say oh it's a satellite, then all of a sudden you have a flash of light coming on you, you have to go to bed, and then they take you.
And then I told them, go to hell, I have something else to do, already at that time, you know, in 2013, 2014, because it's useless.
- ... What the hell are they doing? They wanted to take me, what do you think it was, where did he want to take me?
Oh, yes. No, they, what they simply wanted, the Arcturians, are scientists, so they love to show you how their ships work, to drive them...
- ... Ah, it can't just be that...
But hey.
- Sister: Did the doors to get out of the astral open in 1984?
Yes, the first outpouring of the Holy Spirit took place on August 18, 1984, it is a very specific day. This is where, for the older ones, Louis, for example, experienced this revelation, also in 1984, it is the really major period of the first reconnection. It took some time of course for it to cross all the planes, AD accompanied the process, and now all the planes have joined at zero time, which is the zero time of the earth, which is the zero time of creation.
- Sister:...
I didn't hear you.
- Brother: She says: Are we at zero time?
Yes, yes, of course, let's say, zero time is accessible, it's accessible to everyone, the time for people to become aware, if you can say so, of that, that's what is the good news, as I called it, that spreads from person to person, both through social networks, since the binary matrix has been replaced by the Christic matrix, you can see that there are more and more mechanisms on earth called electromagnetic pulses, Ground Level Events as they are called, i.e. gamma rays that touch the earth.
You see that there are electrical problems everywhere, forests that burn themselves down, all this at the scientific level is actually contributing to the return of zero time. Yes, of course.
The simulacrum merges with the sacred, until we understand that there has never been a simulacrum as there has never been a sacred, there is only Love, but we had to go through all this again, yes, of course.
We had to obey the laws of action-reaction, even for light, alas, and so we had to go through cycles, through precise moments, to make this connection. And that's what's actually happening. That's what we're going through now.
The time has come, do not look for a date, the event is ongoing, has been ongoing for some time, for some months now, it has led us to the truth, more and more, and for an ever-increasing number of brothers and sisters, we just have to live our lives, live life, and that's all.
The simpler you remain today, and I repeat, and this will be my final word for this satsang, the more you accept to be simple, it is not even a question of saying to yourself at the limit I am nothing, because you can repeat a billion times, I am nothing, if you are not humble, you will not experience it.
But think about being simply available, being simple, being present no matter what you do, the rest is done without you by the Intelligence of Light.
So, we'll stop there, I remind you that we have Bidi, I think, around 1:30 p. m., yes, that's it, no, Abba, Abba, Abba.
(Laughs)
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Interviews in June 2019 (Quebec)
Posts by : Apotheosis apotheosis.live
Through Jean Luc Ayoun
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Transcription from French: https://www.facebook.com/Transcriptionsfr-
English translation: https://www.deepl.com/translator revised by LMF
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